Re: SUO: Re: CYC Event vs. SUMO Process -- Tomorrow's Sea Battlein a Teacup
Jon Awbrey wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> The thing that will prevent any of these characterizations of event and process from
> being taken seriously by any research community -- communities whose sense of common
> sense is not defined by the maxim "if it's in a textbook it can't be common sense" --
> much less viewed as 'the' standard, is that the segments of the SUO community that
> generated these characterizations have not taken seriously any of the definitions
> of event or process that are already standard in those research
communities, say,
> engineering, physics, operations research, statistics, systems
science, just to
> name the ones that I'm acquainted with.
>
> Jon Awbrey
>
I have read a number of discussion of event and process but
none except those in formal ontologies have attempted to
specify these terms in logical format suitable for
computational purposes, and relate then to other concepts
that will allow us to build cognitive systems which can
support reasoning in a variety of fields. These **terms**
are used in various senses in different communities, but
in the present discussion group we are concerned with
creating logical structures that will be useful in
cognitive systems. Exactly which terms in which language
and which jargon words in which technical community
have these logical structures as their intended
meanings is a matter for Natural Language Processing
systems to untangle. If we do a good job, we
should be able to help NLP systems do their job
better. The tasks ar related but distinct.
If you have some specific suggestion with respect to
how to represent the kinds of occurrences in the
physical world which people variously call
"events" "processes", "happenings", "occurrences"
"situations", "perdurants", "state changes" or whatever,
I would appreciate concrete suggestions. Your comments
above can be interpreted to mean that we should
all take our names off the list and do nothing,
since it has obviously already been done before.
What specific " definitions of event or process that
are already standard in those research communities, say,
engineering, physics, operations research, statistics,
systems science" did you have in mind? Can you
provide the logical definitions and axiomatization for
our benefit? I for one will be happy to have input
from any constructive source. If in fact they
are already standard, can you tell us what community
uses them for what purpose? This thread is intended
to discuss **specifics** of this particular concept
class. There are other threads to discuss
general issues .
Pat
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