RE: SUO: Re: More terminology
In March 2002, we stopped using the CODA database. Following is the message
I sent then.
SUO members,
A few months ago (recently, in SUO time :-), Intuit Quickbase changed their
terms of operation. Instead of providing free access to upto 3 databases
with total size less than 2 megabytes, they now provide free access to only
1 database with total size less than 10 kilobytes. For $14.95 per month,
they will provide access to upto 15 databases with upto 2 megabytes per
database and a limit of 15 megabytes total space in all databases.
The SUO Coda database exceeded 10 kb, so access to it has been suspended by
Intuit.
From the discussions that occurred in this thread, it appears to me that
Coda (at least on Quickbase) should be assigned to the "experimental
dustbin", for the following reasons:
1) It did not support (and probably still does not support) mathematical
symbols. This was perhaps the main limitation that I recall as a finding
from Robert Kent's work with it.
2) If it were successful, it could grow beyond the 2 mb per database limit.
3) At present there does not seem to be sufficient motivation for paying
$14.95 per month to continue using it.
4) Alternative approaches were suggested in this thread.
So, unless there is some reason to continue working with Coda, I recommend
and request that we remove references to Coda from the SUO web page, and
develop an alternative approach.
I apologize for not posting this until now, but it does not appear to have
impacted anyone, and I've been very busy with other matters.
Phil Jackson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
> Robert E. Kent
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:10 PM
> To: cassidy@micra.com
> Cc: SUO
> Subject: Re: SUO: Re: More terminology
>
>
>
> Pat,
>
> Yes, that URL is for the SUO CODA.
> The URL for the SUO Coda Ontology Modules (SUO COM? SUO MOD?) is
> https://www.quickbase.com/db/6ztfq6sg
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Cassidy" <pcassidy@bellatlantic.net>
> To: "Robert E. Kent" <rekent@ontologos.org>
> Cc: "SUO" <standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: SUO: Re: More terminology
>
>
> > Robert,
> > Thanks for the reference -- I couldn't recall when
> > that was discussed. The URL for the data is;
> >
> > https://www.quickbase.com/db/6urbwpxk
> >
> > >
> > > Pat,
> > >
> > > Phil Jackson had set up a QuickBase mechanism for an SUO glossary over
> two
> > > years ago in March 2001:
> > > http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/suo/email/msg04107.html
> > >
> > > *SUO Common Ontology Development Architecture (Coda)*
> > > The purpose of this database is to implement a common ontology
> development
> > > architecture for use by the IEEE Standard Upper Ontology (SUO) Working
> > > Group, and thereby facilitate the development of the IEEE
> Standard Upper
> > > Ontology.
> > >
> > > *SUO Coda Ontology Modules*
> > > This database supplements the IEEE Standard Upper Ontology
> (SUO) Common
> > > Ontology Development Architecture (Coda), by providing a way to define
> > > "Ontology Modules", which can be used to structure the terms defined
> within
> > > Coda. Ontology modules help structure ontologies by providing
> namespaces
> > > within which name clashes can be prevented, and into which
> terms can be
> > > imported and reused from other namespaces.
> > >
> > > I believe that I was the only person that submitted material.
> > >
> > It seems that way. I would prefer to get some feeling on the
> > preferences of the group before adding in the KIF-ish definitions
> > of "class" and "relation". Other than Jon, are there any
> > other objections to these being the preferred usage in this group?
> >
> >
> > Pat
> >
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