Re: SUO: Re: More terminology
Philip,
Thanks for the update, and for all the prior effort.
So, back to alternatives. Anyone know how to set up a WIKI?
Pat
===========================
Philip Jackson wrote:
> In March 2002, we stopped using the CODA database. Following is the message
> I sent then.
>
> SUO members,
>
> A few months ago (recently, in SUO time :-), Intuit Quickbase changed their
> terms of operation. Instead of providing free access to upto 3 databases
> with total size less than 2 megabytes, they now provide free access to only
> 1 database with total size less than 10 kilobytes. For $14.95 per month,
> they will provide access to upto 15 databases with upto 2 megabytes per
> database and a limit of 15 megabytes total space in all databases.
>
> The SUO Coda database exceeded 10 kb, so access to it has been suspended by
> Intuit.
>
>>From the discussions that occurred in this thread, it appears to me that
> Coda (at least on Quickbase) should be assigned to the "experimental
> dustbin", for the following reasons:
>
> 1) It did not support (and probably still does not support) mathematical
> symbols. This was perhaps the main limitation that I recall as a finding
> from Robert Kent's work with it.
>
> 2) If it were successful, it could grow beyond the 2 mb per database limit.
>
> 3) At present there does not seem to be sufficient motivation for paying
> $14.95 per month to continue using it.
>
> 4) Alternative approaches were suggested in this thread.
>
> So, unless there is some reason to continue working with Coda, I recommend
> and request that we remove references to Coda from the SUO web page, and
> develop an alternative approach.
>
> I apologize for not posting this until now, but it does not appear to have
> impacted anyone, and I've been very busy with other matters.
>
> Phil Jackson
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org
>>[mailto:owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
>>Robert E. Kent
>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:10 PM
>>To: cassidy@micra.com
>>Cc: SUO
>>Subject: Re: SUO: Re: More terminology
>>
>>
>>
>>Pat,
>>
>>Yes, that URL is for the SUO CODA.
>>The URL for the SUO Coda Ontology Modules (SUO COM? SUO MOD?) is
>>https://www.quickbase.com/db/6ztfq6sg
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Patrick Cassidy" <pcassidy@bellatlantic.net>
>>To: "Robert E. Kent" <rekent@ontologos.org>
>>Cc: "SUO" <standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org>
>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: SUO: Re: More terminology
>>
>>
>>
>>>Robert,
>>> Thanks for the reference -- I couldn't recall when
>>>that was discussed. The URL for the data is;
>>>
>>> https://www.quickbase.com/db/6urbwpxk
>>>
>>>
>>>>Pat,
>>>>
>>>>Phil Jackson had set up a QuickBase mechanism for an SUO glossary over
>>>
>>two
>>
>>>>years ago in March 2001:
>>>>http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/suo/email/msg04107.html
>>>>
>>>>*SUO Common Ontology Development Architecture (Coda)*
>>>>The purpose of this database is to implement a common ontology
>>>
>>development
>>
>>>>architecture for use by the IEEE Standard Upper Ontology (SUO) Working
>>>>Group, and thereby facilitate the development of the IEEE
>>>
>>Standard Upper
>>
>>>>Ontology.
>>>>
>>>>*SUO Coda Ontology Modules*
>>>>This database supplements the IEEE Standard Upper Ontology
>>>
>>(SUO) Common
>>
>>>>Ontology Development Architecture (Coda), by providing a way to define
>>>>"Ontology Modules", which can be used to structure the terms defined
>>>
>>within
>>
>>>>Coda. Ontology modules help structure ontologies by providing
>>>
>>namespaces
>>
>>>>within which name clashes can be prevented, and into which
>>>
>>terms can be
>>
>>>>imported and reused from other namespaces.
>>>>
>>>>I believe that I was the only person that submitted material.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It seems that way. I would prefer to get some feeling on the
>>>preferences of the group before adding in the KIF-ish definitions
>>>of "class" and "relation". Other than Jon, are there any
>>>other objections to these being the preferred usage in this group?
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>=============================================
>>>Patrick Cassidy
>>>
>>>MICRA, Inc. || (908) 561-3416
>>>735 Belvidere Ave. || (908) 668-5252 (if no answer)
>>>Plainfield, NJ 07062-2054 || (908) 668-5904 (fax)
>>>
>>>internet: cassidy@micra.com
>>>=============================================
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
=============================================
Patrick Cassidy
MICRA, Inc. || (908) 561-3416
735 Belvidere Ave. || (908) 668-5252 (if no answer)
Plainfield, NJ 07062-2054 || (908) 668-5904 (fax)
internet: cassidy@micra.com
=============================================