RE: SUO: Motion by Matthew West
Dear Eric,
You are correct.
What I am proposing is intended to be "a" canonical
upper ontology (minimal but sufficient) rather than
"the" upper ontology (legislated).
I accept that there are other view points than the
one we have taken (4D) and even that they may have
as much validity and be as or even more useful for
some purposes.
I believe that to make significant progress in
the understanding and development of
ontology in general we need to undertake
"comparative ontology" to examine and understand
the differences between different approaches and
gather evidence from practice of the consequences
of taking one approach or another - rather than
just shouting loudly "I'm right" or "prove that
I'm wrong".
I am hoping that the IFF work will provide a
framework for including and relating different
sorts of upper ontology. I would want to work
within that framework.
In the meantime we will have at least a catalogue
of in practice a reltaively limited number of
upper ontologies.
Matthew West
Principal Consultant
Shell Information Technology International Limited
Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Other Tel: +44 7796 336538
Email: matthew.west@shell.com
Internet: http://www.shell.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Peterson [mailto:epeterson@CCAAVA.com]
> Sent: 27 August 2003 13:12
> To: West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE
> Cc: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: SUO: Motion by Matthew West
>
>
> Hi Matthew;
>
> I'm not entirely sure what is being moved or seconded here.
> My default
> assumption is that "starter content for the Standard Upper Ontology"
> does not mean exclusive content.
>
> Am I right?
>
>
> Best!
>
> -Eric Peterson
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris.angus@btinternet.com [mailto:chris.angus@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:41 AM
> > To: jim.s3@juno.com; standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: SUO: Motion by Matthew West
> >
> >
> > I second Matthew West's motion.
> >
> > Chris Angus
> >
> > > from: jim.s3@juno.com
> > > date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:11:49
> > > to: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> > > subject: Re: SUO: Motion by Matthew West
> > >
> > >
> > > SUO WG Voting Members,
> > >
> > > The below message, Matthew posted earlier today,
> is intended
> to
> > > be a motion.
> > >
> > > Is there a second? (Just one needed, please)
> > >
> > > Jim Schoening
> > >
> > >
> > > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: "West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE" <matthew.west@shell.com>
> > > To: "Standard-Upper-Ontology (E-mail)" <standard-upper-
> > ontology@ieee.org>
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:19:29 0100
> > > Subject: SUO: Proposal for Starter Content
> > >
> > > Dear Colleagues,
> > >
> > > You will be aware that I have been invovled in developing the
> > > EPISTLE Core Model, a data model that constitutes a 4 dimensional
> > > upper ontology, which is being standardised as ISO 15926-2. This
> > > has now reached the stage of being published for its Final Draft
> > > International Standard ballot.
> > >
> > > I would therefore like to take this opportunity to propose it as
> > > starter content for the Standard Upper Ontology.
> > >
> > > The full document will be available shortly from your local
> > > (national) standards body or ISO. However, the formal model is
> > > available on the web in browsable html form at:
> > >
> > > http://www.tc184-
> > sc4.org/wg3ndocs/wg3n1328/lifecycle_integration_schema.h
> > > tml
> > >
> > > It is written in EXPRESS, an ISO standard data modelling language
> > > that is defined in ISO 10303-11.
> > >
> > > I should say that my intent/hope for future development
> may include
> > > translation into a Description Logic language (OWL?) or
> First Order
> > Logic
> > > language and the addition of further axioms than those
> that are part
> > > of the structure of the data model, together with inclusion within
> > > the IFF framework together with other upper ontologies with
> different
> > > foundations.
> > >
> > > What I am not sure of is where we have got to with how we propose
> > > content to be formally considered part of our work here.
> > >
> > > Matthew West
> > > Principal Consultant
> > > Shell Information Technology International Limited
> > > Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
> > >
> > > Tel: 44 20 7934 4490 Other Tel: 44 7796 336538
> > > Email: matthew.west@shell.com
> > > Internet: http://www.shell.com
> > >
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