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SUO: Re: Lifecycle Integration Schema :> Modus Collaborandi




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LIS.  Discussion Note 104

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John,

We are repeating discussions of 1 and 2 years ago,
and so I will quit after this.  We have different
senses of what works.  We have different resource
bases -- at my unversity the last round of budget
cuts led them to drop dial-up services, and it's
not really in my interest to remind the AC/IT
folks that I even exist by bugging them for
web space.  Still, I would look for some
somewhere if I thought it would do some
good, but I do not see that yet.  Yes,
you have a great web site, and I join
in recommending it.  The day that my
average conversation with one of our
average autodictatorial axiomatizers
indicates that they have absorbed any
bit of the math or graph logic at your
web site, then I may be encouraged to go
out and roll my own, but I said this same
thing 1 and 2 years ago and I have not seen
the slightest bit of improvement in that time.
We can all sit in our attics knitting glorious
tri-color samplers of our wits till the cows come
home and it won't make a bit of difference if they
see SUO as a safe place to hide from their homework.
And collaborative work that goes on without archival
consciousnes tends to go round in circles and always
somehow to return to the lowest common denominator
of the collective misconceptions.  For instance,
we had whole big discussions about "individual"
and what a shakey idea it was, and I really
thought we'd made an incremental advance,
all of which has slipped out of memory
now, to judge from recent repetition
compulsions to revive the notion.
There are many more like that.

Jon Awbrey

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John F. Sowa wrote:
> 
> Jon,
> 
> Yes, web sites are not good for collaborative
> work -- the SUO list is designed for that.
> 
> But the archives of the SUO list is very
> poor as a replacement for the web site.
> 
> You need both.  And in order to reduce
> the total amount of traffic on the list,
> I strongly recommend that you ise both:
> 
>   1. The SUO list for discussions.
> 
>   2. Your web site for the folloiwng:
> 
>      a) Lecture notes, tutorials, etc.
> 
>      b) The latest state of the ontology
>         or whatever else you are generating.
> 
>      c) Hyperlinked text with pointers
>         to all of the above and other
>         interesting items around the web.
> 
> I have a web site on which I do all of the
> above, and I highly recommend it.
> 
> John

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