Matthew,
Who is responsible for the content on the SUO web site? How would one
object to a particular item prior to its posting? After it is posted?
Will you ask for unanimous consent to post items to the site? If this
were done on an item basis, I think all would be approved except the
motions item.
If unanimous consent is required to post to the site, or an objection
would be cause for removal, then I have no objection to the procedures
document. The problem is that the procedures document canonizes the
current content of the web site.
I do appreciate all of the work you put into producing the procedures
document and I support its content. How can we work around this?
Bob
West, Matthew R SITI-ITABEI wrote:
Dear
Bob,
It
seems to me that your argument is not with the document, but that it
has not been properly implemented, which if you did not raise an
objection you might have a case for, since it would then have passed.
At the moment of course it has not passed, so there is no reason for
anything to conform to it.
Matthew West
Streamline Business Information Architect for Supply Chain Management
Shell Information Technology International Limited
Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Mobile: +44 7796 336538
Email: matthew.west@shell.com
Internet: http://www.shell.com
http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
Matthew,
Thank you for the information.
In the document to which you refer http://suo.ieee.org/SUO/SUO-Procedures/Documents/SUO-Development-GuidelinesV1Final.txt
at :
5.1 Stage 1 –Approval
...
If the motion is passed the work becomes authorised by the
Standard Upper Ontology Working Group.
Note: The motions for existing starter documents are
considered here to be Approval motions.
The Standard Upper Ontology Working Group Chair shall
maintain a publicly available and numbered list of motions
that pass as resolutions of the Standard Upper Ontology
Working Group.
I interpret this to mean that the list of documents on the SUO web site
http://suo.ieee.org/SUO/SUO-Procedures/documents.html
under the heading Resolutions ( http://suo.ieee.org/SUO/resolutions.html ) are the "list of motions that pass as
resolutions of the Standard Upper OntologyWorking Group" mentioned
above. If so, then I do object.
The text quoted above links these documents and categorizes the June
2003 SUMO motion a passed and approved motion. It failed. If I am
misinterpreting your meaning, please advise me how.
One way to handle this is to simply not list the SUMO motion as
approved or alternatively note in the listing that the result of the
vote is in dispute and the motion's final status will be posted when
the dispute is resolved.
Bob
Bob
West, Matthew R SITI-ITABEI wrote:
Dear Bob,
I understand your objection to that, but that is not what is
being asked here.
It is perhaps a littel confusing that Jim give the link to
the page on which the procedures
documents can be found rather than the document itself. The
document can be found at
for a text version or:
for a pdf version.
SUMO is not mentioned in either of them.
Matthew West
Streamline Business Information Architect for Supply Chain Management
Shell Information Technology International Limited
Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Mobile: +44 7796 336538
Email: matthew.west@shell.com
Internet: http://www.shell.com
http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
Mathew,
I object to the inclusion of the June 2003 SUMO motion (Motion #2 on
the referenced site) as an adopted motion. The motion failed.
An acceptable change would be to remove this motion from the list of
adopted motions. As you know, I am pursuing this matter through the
IEEE channels. These processes move slowly.
Bob
West, Matthew R SITI-ITABEI wrote:
Dear Bob,
Could you indicate please what changes I would need to make to the document to overcome
your objection?
Matthew West
Streamline Business Information Architect for Supply Chain Management
Shell Information Technology International Limited
Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Mobile: +44 7796 336538
Email: matthew.west@shell.com
Internet: http://www.shell.com
http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Spillers [mailto:skydog@PACBELL.NET]
Sent: 25 May 2004 16:48
To: jim.s3@JUNO.COM; SUO
Subject: SUO: Final Procedures Documents
Jim,
You wrote:
I don't see where you are refering to. What URL is it at?
I am referring to the document
http://suo.ieee.org/SUO/SUO-Procedures/documents.html
which is the document you referenced in your email of 05/23/04, which
asked:
Are there any objections to this version of the
referenced procedures document.
Yes, I object.
Bob
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