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DEIP. Discussion Note 4
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JA = Jon Awbrey
TJ = Tom Johnston
Re: CP 4.517
JA, amending JA:
I will probably have to go about the mindless data collection
for a while longer before I try to draw a conclusion, but in
the meantime I have become more intrigued with the connection
to Peirce's theory of information as the third quid between
extension and intension, and relative to the states of which
information the entire spectrum of modalities is refracted
before our minds' eyes.
TJ: I like that last sentence, and look
forward to finding out what it means.
Egged on a bit by Gary and John, I am only just starting to return to
the question of modality, as that was never so compelling to me in math,
where one gets by with a "necessary" and a "sufficient" that seem to rank
inane dismissal quotes in other people's ears, and so mood was never before
so compelling to me as the cousin/cozen issues of intentionality, but here
are some links to Peirce's derivation of information from logical grounds,
Peirce's 1865-1866 Lectures at Harvard and the Lowell Institute, where he
introduces his newfangled notion of "information" and the theory thereof:
C.S. Peirce, Harvard Lectures (1865)
23. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000216.html -- CE 1, 272
24. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000217.html -- CE 1, 272-274
25. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000218.html -- CE 1, 274
26. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000219.html -- CE 1, 274-275
27. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000220.html -- CE 1, 275-276
28. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000221.html -- CE 1, 276
29. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000222.html -- CE 1, 276-277
30. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000223.html -- CE 1, 277
31. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000224.html -- CE 1, 278-279
32. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000225.html -- CE 1, 279-280
33. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000226.html -- CE 1, 280
34. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000227.html -- CE 1, 280-281
35. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000228.html -- CE 1, 281-282
36. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000229.html -- CE 1, 282-283
37. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000230.html -- CE 1, 283
38. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000356.html -- CE 1, 285
39. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000357.html -- CE 1, 285-286
40. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000358.html -- CE 1, 286-288
41. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000359.html -- CE 1, 288
42. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000361.html -- CE 1, 288-289
43. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000362.html -- CE 1, 289
44. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/000363.html -- CE 1, 289-290
C.S. Peirce, Lowell Lectures (1866)
11. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000204.html -- CE 1, 458-459
12. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000205.html -- CE 1, 459-460
13. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000206.html -- CE 1, 460
14. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000207.html -- CE 1, 461
15. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000208.html -- CE 1, 461
16. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000209.html -- CE 1, 462
17. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000210.html -- CE 1, 462
18. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000211.html -- CE 1, 462-463
19. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000212.html -- CE 1, 463-464
20. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000213.html -- CE 1, 464-465
21. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000214.html -- CE 1, 465
22. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000215.html -- CE 1, 466-467
02. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000195.html -- CE 1, 467
03. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000196.html -- CE 1, 467-468
04. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000197.html -- CE 1, 468-469
05. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000198.html -- CE 1, 469
06. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000199.html -- CE 1, 470
07. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-March/000200.html -- CE 1, 470-471
JA: In the spirit of an even wilder guess, I think that he would say that there
is a difference between what we are destined to believe about, for example,
the objective referent, if any, of the phrase "physical causality" at the
"end of inquiry" (EOI) and what we are likely to believe in that respect
at the present time -- time being relative, too, off course -- and that
it may form a useful analytic ideal or a "hypostatic independentity",
to coin a phrase, to think of this "physical_causality_EOI" as being
there all along, or not being there all along, waiting for us to
discover the quantum of truth in the sign "physical causality".
TJ: Perhaps I should know better than to ask this, but what the heck:
(a) What marks the EOI? No more disagreements among members of
the relevant community of inquiry (physicists, biologists, etc)?
(b) Assuming we do reach an EOI in some subject area, what accounts
for it? Why have we stopped disagreeing? Is it that, guided by the
pragmatic principle, we have finally arrived at a set of statements
that accurately represent/describe things as they really are?
These are good questions, part of what I tried
to address in my dissertation ever in progress:
http://members.door.net/arisbe/menu/library/aboutcsp/awbrey/inquiry.htm
Whatever EOI be in the end, how it functions in the
meantime is as a normative ideal. I will round up
the usual Chapter & Peirce, but in the meanwhile
here is a 3-logy of good books on the subject:
Peter Skagestad, 'The Road of Inquiry: [CSP]'s Pragmatic Realism'.
Cheryl Misak, 'Truth and the End of Inquiry: A Peircean Account of Truth'.
C.F. Delaney, 'Science, Knowledge, and Mind: A Study in the Philosophy of [CSP]'.
The Big EOI can be understood on analogy with the
little EOI's that make up the "fixions of belief"
that we reach every day in our everyday inquiries.
The primer canon shot on that score is found here:
http://members.door.net/arisbe/menu/library/bycsp/fixation/fx-frame.htm
Jon Awbrey
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