Phone Conference P1450.1 Working Doc Subgroup
Thurs, Apr 15, 2004, 10:00 am PDT
Attendees:
Tony Taylor (chair & scribe))
Doug Sprague
Peter Wohl
Bruce Kaufman
Tom Bartenstein
Greg Maston (arrived late)
Documents
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1450/private/P1450.1-D18.pdf
(ballot draft)
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1450/private/P1450.1-D19.pdf
(updated 3/25)
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1450/private/P1450.1-D19-ballot-resolution.pdf
(updated 3/25)
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1450/private/P1450.1-votes.pdf
(ballot results)
Agenda
- is this neccessary in dot1? - nothing uses or can use this data.
- in separate block? - if needed, why not within scanstructures?
3/1/04-TT - Changed syntax and definition to make ScanLength an optional statement.3/04-WG - Some members reviewed and accepted this proposal, but other members of the WG raised concerns. This was tabled for additional review.
76, Annex F, , editorial,Annex F has nothing to do with the scope of 1450.1. The contents also go against CTL's mechanism which is much simpler. This solution does not work for situations where the patterns are not available.,
Propose: Delete this Annex.
3/1/04-TT/GM - This annex is necessary to explain the usage of the statement AllowInterleave.
- new brace syntax for observe data- start and stop labels, and stop count
RK-1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9.
- Greg Maston (GM-5, 10 issues)- Jose Santiago (JS-2, 39 issues)
- changes in D19, Apr 1
*number of issues = 81, number resolved = 11 (14%); last week = 5 (6%)
*number editorial comments = 219, number resolved = 80 (37%); last week = 31 (14%)
- would someone like to represent dot1 at the TTSG meeting?
* Wed April 28th, 8:30am to 9:30am at VTS (Napa).
- when can we recommend expression syntax to dot3, dot6?
* need concurrence from DM, DO, GR (the dot1 NO voters)
* need to start ballot process for dot3 (which is now in limbo)
28 April: VTS, Napa
7-11 June: Design Automation Conf., San Diego, California http://www.dac.com
Meeting discussion
0. IEEE meeting clearances
Nothing under discussion or presentation for this meeting was identified
as
being proprietary or restricted.
changes in D19, Apr 1
number of issues = 81, number resolved = 11 (14%); last week = 5 (6%)
number editorial comments = 219, number resolved = 80 (37%); last week = 31 (14%)
Greg is planning to be at VTS and will represent dot1 at the TTSG meeting. See also plans (below) for face-to-face
Greg took the AI to write a "statement of intent" explaining what we intend to do with the expressions syntax - basically to keep the colon-equal terminology but improve the write-up that explains things. This will be communicated to this wg and also to the three ballotters who voted NO on this issue (Don Organ, Denis Martin, Gordon Robinson). We would like to get concurrence on this issue as it is currently blocking dot3 and dot6.
We discussed the anticipated time to work through all the ballot issues. The estimates ranged from 2 months to 9 months. We are looking to have 1 or 2 face-to-face meetings to try to move more quickly through the issues (see below).
28 April: VTS, Napa - The following are planning to attend. If anyone else is interested, please contact Tony Taylor.
- Tony Taylor
- Greg Maston
- Bruce Kaufman
- John Cosley
7-11 June: Design Automation Conf., San Diego, California http://www.dac.com. Plans for this are still fluid, but will only happen we we have at least 4 people committed to be there.
Meeting adjourned at 11:00 AM, PDT.
Next meeting
Thursday, April 22, 2004, 10:00 to 11:30AM, PDT
AIs
Tony - set up face-to-face for 4/28 at VTS
Greg - Statement of Intent on expression syntax and get NO-voters buy in
Tony - Updated docs per item agreed to in 4/15 meeting