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Re: A note from the acting chair: Patents and the P1788 working group



Lee et al,

Thank you for your feedback.  Here are my comments:

1.  Regarding scope of the letter of assurance, I suggest the
    person responsible for legal aspects of a firm's business
    read what IEEE has stated in its bylaws concerning the
    letter of assurance, at:

    http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html

    Also, at the bottom of that web page (in section 7.1,
    "Interpretations of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws,"
    there is a link for requests for interpretations, namely
    to the "Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board,"

    j.gorman@xxxxxxxxx

2.  I see no problem with my making the call for patents monthly
    rather than quarterly.  I have programmed a note into my
    planning software.

3.  Your suggestion regarding clarification of the
    term "withdrawal" in the LOA needs to be handled by
    IEEE officers.  (I'm just acting chair of the working group.)
    I'll follow this through.

Best regards,

Baker


On 12/27/2008 10:54 PM, first.i.last@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
My responses are interleaved below.

  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "R. Baker Kearfott"<rbk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Dear P1788 members,

[...]

2. Under certain conditions, a patent holder should submit a
     Letter of Assurance to IEEE.  I have also attached the
     letter of assurance form, to be filled out by patent
     holders.  (The letter of assurance is probably a good idea for
     someone who might have an "essential patent claim," where "essential
     patent claim" means one such that the standard cannot be
     implemented without a license corresponding to that patent.)

It appears to me that the above point applies not only to existing patents, but also to patents applied for and even to claims that may appear in a future patent application.  I.e., this appears to be a request for full disclosure -- a provision with which I agree.

My concern is that if the scope of the above provision is narrow then a participant could withhold information about a patent not yet granted or not yet filed until after the standard is approved.  That would subvert the purpose of the "call for patents" and the Letters of Assurance.

It would be useful to obtain a clarification of the scope of the above provision from the responsible IEEE authority.

[...]

Since we intend to conduct substantial business by email, we
need to adhere to these rules.  I suggest that, instead of
the "call for patents" at the beginning of each meeting, the
chair (or acting chair) issue an official call for patents
quarterly.

In my opinion a quarterly call is insufficient.  I recommend a monthly call, which can be a brief message providing a link to all of the information related to this issue.

[...]

As far as I can tell so far, the actual standard wording is
not constrained by patents, but implementation of it may be.
(I am continuing to study IEEE policies and documents.)

In your deliberations, please consider the statement at the end of page three (3) of the LoA form.  It states that the assurance lasts for the duration of the standard.  The term used for the termination of a standard is "withdrawal".  But as I understand the policies and procedures that apply to standards, withdrawal of an existing standard is automatic when it is revised and the revision is approved.  That interpretation suggests that an LoA would be terminated by the revision process.

Since the interval standard is probably going to need substantial revision in light of issues that arise in the period immediately following its approval, the withdrawal of the initial standard might be quite soon.  Some mechanism should be provided to extend the LoA statements to encompass successor standards or to provide a specific minimum duration at the discretion of the submitter.

My specific suggestion is that the term "withdrawal" be added to the list of definitions that begins on page four (4).  The term should be defined to mean the FINAL withdrawal of the standard and to specifically exclude the the automatic withdrawal that occurs when an existing standard is superceded by its successor.

Sincerely,

Lee Winter
NP Engineering
Nashua, New Hampshire
603-595-2608




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