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Re: the "set paradigm" is harmful



Arnold,

from practical point of view the mid-rad
presentation differs from the sup-inf one in that
midpoint and radius do not need to be presented
uniformly in the computer, e g radius may need
a very short mantissa. From abstract algebraic point 
of view both components belong to spaces of 
different structure.

The standard should consider both presentations
as equally possible. The set-paradigm as stated
in both discussed documents imposes the
priority of the sup-inf presentation.

Svetoslav


On 9 Feb 2009 at 9:42, Arnold Neumaier wrote:

> Svetoslav Markov schrieb:
> >  
> > The phrase:
> > 
> > (S) "intervals are sets of numbers",
> > 
> > is repeatedly stated in the documents
> > discussed by now.
> 
> This is the consensus in the wider community of all
> mathematicians. No amount of lobbying will change this.
> 
> 
> > Thereby  (S) is understood in  the sense,
> > that intervals are boxes of the form [a, b]. 
> > I shall further call this theoretical framework
> > the "set  paradigm". 
> > 
> > In my opinion a standard based on the set  paradigm will
> > be able to serve only a limited number of applications and 
> > is harmful for the future development of interval analysis.
> > 
> > The  set  paradigm  excludes the view the intervals can be
> > considered as approximate numbers.  
> 
> 
> What are meaningful definitions of approximate numbers?
> 
> 1. A number known to lie between to known numbers.
> This gives traditional interval arithmetic.
> 
> 2. A number known to deviate from a given number by at most
> a given amount. This is equivalent to a special case of 1.,
> special since it does not cater for unbounded intervals.
> 
> 3. Probabilistic versions of 1. or 2.
> 
> It is clear that we should not consider option 3. in the
> present standard discussion. This leaves 1. as the more
> general (and in practice almost exclusively used) option.
> 
> 
> Arnold Neumaier