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Re: What does "infinty as number" mean?



Ralph Baker Kearfott schrieb:
Dear Members,

What does the expression "infinity as number" mean to this 1788 group?

For better or worse, I had been under the impression it means the following three things:

1. Infinities are not members of the interval, although they may appear as endpoints of an interval to indicate an open (unbounded) endpoint.

This is infinity-not-as-number, or intervals-as-sets-of-reals.


2. To evaluate the difference (Inf-Inf) or ratio (Inf/Inf) of two infinities, the infinities are replaced with a real number x and then the arithmetic operation is considered in the limit as the magnitude x tends towards infinity. The same is true for 0*Inf, which leads to 0*Inf=0.

3. Because of 2), Inf-Inf=0, Inf/Inf=1, and 0*Inf=0, but other arithmetic operations involving infinities are as usual, such as Inf+a=Inf for any real number a.


In my usage, infinity-as-number means that elements of R^* = R union +-Inf are called numbers, and that these numbers may be elements of
intervals. Thus an interval [Inf,Inf] is nonempty and contains Inf,
and [0,Inf] also contains Inf.

I strongly recommend against this, since there is no natural
arithmetic on R^*.

In particular, while Inf+a=Inf for finite a, Inf-Inf _must_ be
undefined in an infinity-as-number mode and not zero since
otherwise (Inf+1)-Inf=0 against any intuition.


The recommendations in Part 7 of the Vienna Proposal do not concern
infinity-as-number, but only the directed rounding requirements to
be able to optimally work with infinite bounds, roughly according to
your 2. above. This is only in directed rounding mode, and _only_ to
get the correct results for intervals-as-sets-of-reals in the most
transparent way.

Nothing in the Vienna Proposal is dependent on the recommendations in
Part 7 of the Vienna Proposal.



Arnold Neumaier