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Re: Will someone make a formal motion? Re: mid-rad, inf-sup, a caution...



Nate et al,

Thank you for the clarification of your thoughts and stand.

I hadn't read the recent postings to this list to imply we should
in any way prevent internal implementations of mid-rad.  My main
reading is that, for an implementation of interval arithmetic
to be "1788 standard-conforming," it must ...  Perhaps
this will end up implying that it must implement inf-sup arithmetic,
but I don't see how it can say it must not implement
mid-rad arithmetic. It may also end up specifying conversion
between inf-sup and mid-rad form, just as it specifies conversion
between interval forms and text or decimal forms, without saying
how the mid-rad form should be manipulated internally.

Baker

On 5/12/2010 20:19, Nate Hayes wrote:
Baker,

That's a fair summary on the cache issue. Please excuse me, but in this
context I found John's comment very shocking!

The recently discussed conversions for mid-rad (ala Vienna and Arnolds
comment about the x+-r constructor) are good enough for P1788; I gave
the computer graphics and non-754 mid-rad encoding examples to support
this idea!!!

My only lingering concern is that we should not prevent (whenever
possible) internal implementations of mid-rad. I've continued to be a
little confused on this point, because I hear what I think are
conflicting messages.

Nate



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Subject: Re: Will someone make a formal motion? Re: mid-rad, inf-sup, a
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Nate et al,

Ah, so may I summarize (subject to your correction)?:

The program is somehow parallelizable because it fits into cache,
and it may not fit into cache if the data elements are too large.
I'll need to trust you on that, since I have not worked on that level
with
cache and do not see the exact situation or context.

The question remains about whether or not this is a compelling
reason to standardize mid-rad (in view of arguments that we are
not preventing implementation of mid-rad internally).

Baker



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