Re: Why (IMO) you should vote Yes to Motion 14.02
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:46:29 +0200
> From: Christian Keil <c.keil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Dan Zuras Intervals <intervals08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Why (IMO) you should vote Yes to Motion 14.02
>
> Zitat von Dan Zuras Intervals <intervals08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> . . .
> >>
> >> Christian
> >
> > Christian is neither nitpicking nor wrong about the intention
> > of the motion.
> >
> > The "approximation in storage" IS the issue.
>
> Probably not. As Nate answered to my email, at least he is not
OK, the approximation is the issue.
Where the approximation takes place in not.
> objecting against avoiding the loss of accuracy here (OMG double
> negative... I hope you get what I mean). The other way around: he
I do.
Double negatives are sometimes necessary & meaningful.
After all, one can truthfully say "I have never claimed
I was not a communist" & STILL NOT BE a communist.
Much to the confusion & consternation of certain senators
in my country nearly 60 years ago.
> doesn't want to introduce a loss of accuracy there. He would be
> perfectly fine with having a level 2 datum that allows to be
> represented without loss in a level 3 representation. That's what I
> wanted to illustrate. I have the impression that different parties in
> this discussion are arguing on different levels.
>
> Therefor I think your move to another definition of the level 2 datums
> should have merit.
>
> > As for sorting out the nature of supported formats, I think
> > we would all be well served to ignore the nature of those
> > formats entirely in the normative text in favor of
> describing
> > their behavior only. If we confined all mention of inf-sup
> or
> > mid-rad to informative notes & confined our normative text
> to
> > making restrictions on how they shall behave, it would be a
> > better standard for it.
> >
> > That's not a bad approach now that I think about it.
>
> That was the bad wording of a nonnative =). I meant sorting out the
> level 2 datum issue.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christian
I apologise Christian. It was probably bad wording to
the natives as well.
I am a bad writer of English prose.
But my German is just terrible.
I once spoke it well enough to fool a Frenchman into
thinking I was a German. But no one in Karlsruhe fell
for it.
I still speak English well enough to fool most Englishmen
into thinking I'm an American. But that's not very hard.
Would that we could speak to each other in mathematics.
Of course there would still be the issue of fooling
non-mathematicians into thinking you are a mathematician.
Its an imperfect world but we all must live in it. :-)
Dan