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Re: DirectedInf



> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:58:12 +0200
> From: Arnold Neumaier <Arnold.Neumaier@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Nate Hayes <nh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: 1788 <stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DirectedInf
> 
> Nate Hayes wrote: [in Overflow and Inf]
> > Arnold Neumaier wrote:
> >> Nate Hayes wrote:
> >>> Arnolde Neumaier wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I assume you refer to Ian Mcintosh's mail from September 22.
> >>>> What he says is independent of whether a distinction is made between
> >>>> Inf and Overflow.
> >>>>
> >>>> It applies verbatim if all of his Overflows are interpreted as Inf
> >>>> in the sense of Motion 3, but are implemented as nonstandard Inf
> >>>> (called DirectedInf for the sake of the following discussion)
> >>>> for which an implementation can (apparently, if I understand
> >>>> him correctly) specify its own operation rules without being
> >>>> inconsistent with 754.
> 
> Since Dan Zuras and Michel Hack assure me that adding new rounding modes
> does not invalidate the property of being 754-conforming, the above
> seems indeed to be the case, interpreted appropriately.
> 
> This opens up a door that I'll soon expl;ore in more detail.
> 

	Arnold,


	You seem to be picking & choosing from among my words
	to support your approach.

	I do NOT support it.  And I believe it WOULD invalidate
	a system from conforming to 754.

	I repeat the next paragraph from that note:

>>
>>	However, if you are asking that there exist values
>>	(such as +/-DirectedInf) other than those spelled out
>>	in the 754 document, I'd have to say, yes, that would
>>	invalidate an implementation.
>>
>>	The clause you would violate is section 3.3 & I quote:
>>
>>	"These are the only floating-point data represented."
>>

	I believe this WOULD violate both the letter & the
	spirit of IEEE-754.

	Something that I went on to opine would be unwise of
	us to do.

	I am NOT opening that door for you.  You force yourself
	through it by yourself.


				Dan