Re: Common interval literals (was comments on the comments...)
Dima, Vincent, John, George, et al,
The mechanism by which this is done is through a Sponsor Ballot
recirculation.
Normally, a recirculation is in response to changes made due
to comments during the Sponsor Ballot. However, to my knowledge,
if really necessary, other changes can be made provided they
are well-documented, so the members of the Sponsor Ballot group
only need review the changes.
However, we have less than a year to complete the entire
process, including the REVCOM approval. Note the Sponsor must
submit the formal package to REVCOM by April 24 for REVCOM consideration
at its June 5 telecon. Working backward, allowing 3 days for the
Sponsor to prepare and submit the package, and allowing 20 days for
a recirculation ballot (the minimum under IEEE R&R is 10 days, but
can we get 75% of the balloters to submit within 10 days?), that means
the revision, along with the careful list of changes, should be
in to the Sponsor no later than April 1.
The other scheduled REVCOM telecon is October 16; to considered
by that meeting, using the same calculations (6 week deadline for
Sponsor submittal, 24 days for Sponsor ballot and submittal
preparation), the Editors would need to submit a complete
revision and careful list of changes to the sponsor by
August 12.
Since the 1788 term ends in December, these two deadlines are
fixed. I was hoping we could get everything in for the June 5 meeting,
in case REVCOM has something to say, but if it must be by the October
meeting, so be it.
In any case, editors, please don't beat yourselves up on not having
it right before the Sponsor Ballot. Let's just get it right in as
orderly a fashion as possible, so REVCON sees procedure has been
followed, and it is truly a consensus of the entire group. (I'm not
overly blaming myself for pressuring the group late in 2014.)
Baker
On 02/21/2015 07:20 AM, Corliss, George wrote:
Dima, Vincent, John, and all,
But is it too much of a change at this late stage? Comments ASAP please.
I can't decide this. If officers decide to approve these changes, I can assist.
In my opinion, we want the strongest standard we are capable of preparing. We should revise and resubmit. I do not think there is anything especially controversial being added at the last minute; just careful attention to some details.
I say, “Revise, please.”
And THANK YOU to the few doing the WORK. I very much appreciate your efforts.
George Corliss
-Dima
=== Dmitry Nadezhin wrote October 3, 2013: ====
Vincent,
I'm not sure the syntax in the common part of the standard
can be exactly the same as it is now.
Decoration systems are flavor-specifix.
Set-based flavour has "[NaI]" form and "_trv", "_def", "_dac", "_com" decoration suffixes.
Modal flavor has decorations "_ein", "_dac", "_def", "_gap", "_ndf".
Probably, modal flavor doesn't need the "[NaI]" form.
The "-inf" and "+inf" number literals and unbounded uncertain forms "1??u"
are not necessary for common intervals.
Kaucher/modal flavours need to extend flavor indepent syntax
with negative radius and with "l > u" permission:
"[11,7]"
"9?-2".
Hence it is not so simple to move subsection section 12.11 into Chapter 1.
It will be necessary to split it into flavor-independed and set-based specific parts
whith links from set-based to flavor-independent. I'm still in doubts.
-Dima
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=== John Pryce wrote October 3, 2013: ====
On 2013 Oct 3, at 05:11, Dmitry Nadezhin wrote:
Hence it is not so simple to move subsection section 12.11 into Chapter 1.
It will be necessary to split it into flavor-independed and set-based specific parts
whith links from set-based to flavor-independent. I'm still in doubts.
I prefer to keep away from this. Maybe the new §9 in Ch 1 could say all flavors *should* have interval literals as compatible as possible to the set-based ones, and leave it at that.
John
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