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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

Hi Gaurang,

 

Thank you for the contribution. Please find some comments below:

  • Having a common count down timer outside the Mode Tuple List for all modes is also not a good design. If AP needs to start multiple features with different count-down, then multiple elements need to be carried which is a wasteful overhead. Having the count down timer as part of each field of the list is better.
  • What is the point of knowing when in the past the update took place for Countdown Timer? We can assign value of 0 to mean the update has already happened. I feel there is no need for > 127.
  • Using only 4 bits for Mode Length may not be sufficient. Better to be flexible for now.
  • Using the mode length to indicate whether mode is being enabled/disabled is not a good design. It can limit future generalization when the parameter lengths may need to be increased. Suggest to have separate mode enable/disable indication.
  • Carrying the indication sometimes in Basic ML element, and sometimes independently by itself is confusing. Why not always carry it in basic ML element? Also why not use Reconfig ML element instead of basic ML element since that is used from non-AP STA side anyway. Indication in multiple possible locations etc., may increase complexity.
  • The minimum time to broadcast the signaling before the parameter/mode change should be specified by the standard and shouldn’t be left to implementation.

 

P.S. Please also see below a contribution from me where I propose procedure for DPS enablement/update at AP, which is fairly well aligned with your proposal but resolves some of above issues, e.g., a separate count-down timer, and a separate enablement/disablement field.

20-Jul-2025 ET

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TGbn

CC 50 CR for Dynamic Power Save Mode Update

Vishnu Ratnam (Samsung Electronics)

22-Jul-2025 19:40:36 ET

Download

 

Regards,

Vishnu

 

From: Gaurang Naik <0000305a2f8ce933-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

 

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Hello all, 

 

Could you please use this thread to provide your feedback/comments on document 1091r3?

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

 

From: Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 3:44 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stds-802-11-tgbn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

 

Hello all,

 

11-25/1091r3 is now on mentor.

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

 

 

From: Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 10:29 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stds-802-11-tgbn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

 

Hello all,

 

11-25/1091r2 is now on mentor.

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

From: Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 2:34 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stds-802-11-tgbn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

 

Hello all, 

 

Uploaded 11-25/1091r1 based on received offline feedback. 

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

From: Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 3:24 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stds-802-11-tgbn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MAC CR document for enablement/disablement of modes on AP side

 

Hello all, 

 

I have uploaded CR 11-25/1091r0 that resolves CIDs on enablement/disablement of UHR features on the AP side. The CR document resolves the following CIDs:

  • 2512, 2479, 2692, 913, 3405, 2473, 3652, 3680, 2124, 3802, 3801

 

Please let me know if you have any feedback or suggestions.

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

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