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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] SP list



Hi Alfred,

 

Could you add Shengquan’s pending SPs on IM to the PHY session?

 

SP#1:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

  • IM pilots are only applied for non-punctured full bandwidth SU PPDU.

 

 

SP#2:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

  • When IM is applied, the value of D_TM for LDPC tone mapper is as below:
    • 9 for 242-tone RU for non-DCM
    • 9 for 484-tone RU for non-DCM
    • 10 for 996-tone RU for non-DCM (same value is used for each 80MHz frequency subblock when PPDU bandwidth is 160MHz and 320MHz)

 

SP#3:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

  • IM pilots have values of 0’s (i.e. Zero-Energy).

 

SP#4:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

 

  • Nsd_short values when IM pilots are applied.

 RU/MRU

Nsd_IM & Nsp_IM

Nsd_short_IM

Nsd_IM

Nsp_IM

MCS=[0:13,17,19,20,23

242

208

26

48

484

416

52

108

996

882

98

216

2x996

1764

196

444

4x996

3528

392

888

 

 

SP#5:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

  • The number of spatial streams is defined as below if IM is used:
    • 1 spatial stream for DL

 

SP#6:

Do you support to add the following into 11bn SFD?

  • IM pilots is not applicable when MCS 15 is used.

 

[Supporting doc: 25/0079r0]

 

Thanks,

Jianhan

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Hi Alfred,

 

Could you add my pending SP to Joint session? (Add one note)

 

Do you support adding the following to the SFD?

  • A Co-BF coordinating AP may indicate an Ack policy of a Co-BF coordinated AP  in the Co-BF Trigger frame to avoid Ack collision.
    • This Ack policy is notified to the Non-AP STAs in the Ack policy Indicator subfield of the QoS Control field in the Co-BF DL PPDU sent from the coordinated AP.
    • As well as Co-SR case.

[Supporting doc: 24/2060r3]

 

Best Regards,

Kosuke (SONY)

 


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Hello all,

 

Please review the SP list and let me know if anything is outdated or is missing:

 

May 13

Do you agree to enhance the existing SCS framework in 11bn to enable a non-AP STA to dynamically switch from one QoS profile to another QoS profile for an SCS stream?

 

·          The new QoS profile is selected from one of the previously accepted QoS profiles for that SCS stream.

 TBD on mechanism for QoS profile switch indication.

Supporting document: 24/0825, 24/0660, 24/1752, 25/0494

 

Yue Qi

Pending

QoS

MAC

June 6

Do you agree to include overlapping bandwidth sounding in 11bn?

-          The relevant indications and frame exachanges are TBD.

 

Supporting document: ??

Qisheng Huang

Pending

Sounding

PHY

June 6

Do you agree to include overlapping bandwidth sounding in 11bn?

-          The overlapping bandwidth could be negotiated through exchange of invite/response frames before the transmission of UHR NDPA.

-          The sounding bandwidth announced by UHR NDPA might be less than the operating bandwidth of the UHR beamformee.

Supporting document: ??

Qisheng Huang

Pending

Sounding

PHY

June 12

Do you support that Co-BF and Co-SR transmission TXOP shall follow the same frame exchange sequence framework?

-          Co-SR does not need to support EHT eMLSR non-AP STA

 

The reference docs for all the SPs are: [24/412, 25/879]

Sherief Helwa

Pending

CBF/CSR

Joint

June 17

Do you agree to define a new NDP flavor (UHR NDP), that will be designated as OFDMA PPDU, thus be able to support OFDMA puncturing schemes?

Supporting document: 25/694r2

Avner Epstein

Pending

Sounding

Joint

June 17

Do you agree to define a UHR Sounding Operation procedure, that will be based on EHT Sounding Operation but using UHR NDP instead of EHT NDP, in order to be able to perform fresh sounding for Partial BW DL MU-MIMO?

Supporting document: 25/694r2

Avner Epstein

Pending

Sounding

Joint

July 17

SP1: Do you support to include additional information field(s) in the Co-TDMA ICR to what is already present in Draft 0.3 [1]. 

Klaus Doppler

Pending

CTDMA

MAC

July 17

SP2: Do you support to add an information field to the Co-TDMA ICR that the coordinated AP can use to indicate the time duration it would like to be allocated by the sharing AP as part of the Co-TDMA TXOP sharing procedure. The sharing AP can use this information to allocate time to the coordinated AP(s). Note: The indicated time duration to be allocated is a recommendation to the sharing AP.  The PDT already includes the primary AC as a parameter in the ICF to help the polled AP to decide if it has wants to receive part of the TXOP from the sharing AP.

Klaus Doppler

Pending

CTDMA

MAC

July 17

SP: Do you support that:

·          A Shared (Responding) AP may reject a Co-BF/Co-SR transmission or Co-BF sounding invitation received from a Sharing (Initiating) AP.

·          In case of rejection, the Shared (Responding) AP can include the reason for rejection in the Co-BF/Co-SR Response or Co-BF Sounding Response frame.

o    Reasons for rejecting a Co-BF/Co-SR transmission or Co-BF sounding invitation are TBD.

 

Mahmoud Hasabel Naby

Pending

CBF/CSR

Joint

 

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Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe/TGbn Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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