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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request: 11-25-1934 -CR for MAPC fairness



 

Hello Dibakar,

 

I would like to provide an additional comment.

 

Please note the besides not supporting the ideas behind comments 6628/10376,  

which aim to add the additional constraint/restriction to the shared AP to the existing Primary AC rule,

we also do not agree with CR provided in 1934r0 on page 11,  quote

A data or mangement frame from a coordinated AP during a shared TXOP by Co-TDMA shall belong to the AC_VI or AC_VO access category (#6628, 10376). “

 

We disagree that management frames need to be AC as this involves enabling QMF (which is not the “interesting” path to go).

The default AC for management frames is AC VO so why to classify it .

 

 

 

Thank you,

samat

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2025 9:57 PM
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Hi Samat,

 

Thank you for your comments.

 

Regarding #2, I would defer those CIDs for now to have more discussion. Members please share your opinion on these two CIDs.

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Samat Shabdanov <Samat.Shabdanov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2025 5:01 PM
To: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 11bn LB291 CR request: 11-25-1934 -CR for MAPC fairness

 

Hello Dibakar,

 

I would like to provide a feedback on 11-25-1934 -CR for MAPC fairness, specifically on

 

  1. comment 6125:
  • a minor editorial suggestion, please consider using “just above” or “as described directly above”

 

  1. comments 6628 and 10376 :  
  • we have already a general rule in 11bn for coordinated AP(s) (i..e, AC_{shared_AP} >= primary AC)

that is flexible for coordinated AP(s) to follow without violating  EDCA requirements for the gained TXOP by coordinated APs.

Why to revisit now (when we already have 1.0draft)  the basic C-TDMA framework what members have discussed intensively at early stages of C-TDMA development and agreed upon in the past ?

                             C-TDMA is intended for LL traffic, and coordinated APs will prioritize AC VO/VI to serve during the shared portion of TXOP.

Ironically, the section on fairness  (Section 37.27) on which members spent a good amount of time was discussed/developed to support the current model (without additional rules/and constraints on coordinated APs).     

 

Thank you,

samat form mtk

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2025 11:27 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Alfred,

 

Please note that I have uploaded 1934r0 to the mentor.

All members who are interested in that section please review.

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 9:13 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following CR documents to the MAC queue:

  • 11-25-1934 -CR for MAPC fairness – Technical (31 CIDs)
  • 11-25-1935- CR for SCS related text – Technical (34 CIDs)

 

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Arik Klein <0000177967a59511-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 1:09 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request

 

Hello Alfred,

 

Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?

  • 11-25/1912 LB291 - CR for MAPC element - Editorials 1 (14 CIDs)
  • 11-25/1913 LB291 - CR for 37.15.1 MAPC common procedures - Editorials 2 (18 CIDs)

 

Regards,

Arik

 

From: Abhishek Patil <0000297b717f2a04-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:
יום ד 29 אוקטובר 2025 23:10
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?

11-25/1835 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 4

11-25/1836 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 5

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

 

From: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2025 2:19 AM
To: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 11bn LB291 CR request

 

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?

11-25/1826 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 2

11-25/1834 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 3

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

 

From: Abhishek Patil <0000297b717f2a04-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 2:03 AM
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Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please help queue the following CR doc to the TGbn MAC agenda?

11-25/1825 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 1

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

From: wangkaidong (E) <00004ea939387e7b-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 1:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request

 

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Hello Alfred,

 

Please help add the CR document to the MAC queue. It resolves 1 CID. Thank you!

23-Oct-2025 ET 2025  1859      0     TGbn      11bn LB291 CR for CID 4983      Kaidong Wang (Huawei)

 

Best regards,

Kaidong Wang

 

From: Fang, Juan <juan.fang@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 6:36 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request
Importance: High

 

Hi Alfred,

Please help to add following to the PHY queue, it has 8 CIDs.

 

22-Oct-2025 ET

2025

1837

1

TGbn

PHY-lb291-CIDs_subclause_38.3.15.12_ELR_SIG

intel

22-Oct-2025 18:29:52 ET

DownloadRevise

 

 

Thanks,

 

Juan

 

From: Gaurang Naik <0000305a2f8ce933-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2025 2:59 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Pls add the following to the MAC queue. It resolves 15 CIDs.

 

17-Oct-2025 ET

2025

1820

0

TGbn

LB291: CR for CIDs on UHR Parameters Update element - part 1

Gaurang Naik (Qualcomm)

 

All, please let me know if you have any feedback.

 

Thanks

Gaurang


From: Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 12:09 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ross.yujian@xxxxxxxxxx <ross.yujian@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 11bn LB291 CR request

 

Hi Alfred, 

 

Please add the following CR document to the MAC queue. It resolves 23 CIDs.

 

2025

1816

0

TGbn

LB291: CR for CIDs on UHR Mode Change element - part 1

Gaurang Naik (Qualcomm)

 

Thanks

Gaurang


From: Yujian (Ross Yu) <00001792b51ef4ea-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 6:15 PM
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Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following CR documents into the queue, it contains 20 editorial CIDs.

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1791-00-00bn-lb291-editorial-comments-part-1.docx

 

regards

于健 Ross Jian Yu

Huawei Technologies


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