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[FW: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC agenda]



Security PAR feedback from 802.11 WG.

Yoshihiro Ohba

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From: "Gupta, Vivek G" <vivek.g.gupta@intel.com>
To: 'Yoshihiro Ohba' <yohba@tari.toshiba.com>
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fyi

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Rosdahl [mailto:jrosdahl@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:08 PM
To: Gupta, Vivek G
Cc: Bruce Kraemer
Subject: Fw: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC agenda

Vivek,
   This is another e-mail set of comments for your 802.21.  This thread is
to provide some feedback on your proposed PAR.  I posted this to the EC
reflector and put a hardcopy (written) in your folder in the EC office.
Regards,
Jon Rosdahl
802.11 WG Vice-Char
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Rosdahl" <jrosdahl@ieee.org>
To: <stds-802-sec@IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: Fw: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC agenda


> Comments for the 802.21 PAR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walker, Jesse" <jesse.walker@INTEL.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-11-CAC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC
> agenda
>
>
>> --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee
>> Reflector ---
>>
>> Clint,
>>
>> The problem here seems to be nnomenclature. Perhaps we should ask 802.21
>> to document the meaning of "heterogeneous." The meaning within the
>> context of the proposed 802.21 work would be in reference to either
>> different 802 media or different administrative domains that have
>> established roaming agreements. If people object to this definition,
>> then an alternative would be to define a new term meaning exactly this,
>> and then using it consistently throughout the PAR and 5 Criteria.
>>
>> The basis of my comment is the other clauses in the PAR, and the entire
>> discussion in the 5 Criteria document, describes the networks as
>> "heterogeneous". The scope clause in particular should be consistent
>> with the remainder of both the PAR and with the 5 Criteria document,
>> which it is not at present.
>>
>> -- Jesse
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Clint Chaplin [mailto:clint.chaplin@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM
>> To: Walker, Jesse
>> Cc: STDS-802-11-CAC@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC
>> agenda
>>
>> 802.21 does look at handovers between ESSs; is this considered
>> heterogeneous or homogeneous?
>>
>> Clint
>>
>> On 7/13/08, Walker, Jesse <jesse.walker@intel.com> wrote:
>>> --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee
>> Reflector ---
>>>
>>>
>>> By and large the 802.21 PAR looks good to me, but I think the language
>>>  in the scope clause needs to be cleaned up. Bullet 1 of the scope
>> clause
>>>  reads:
>>>
>>>         Define mechanisms to reduce the latency of authentication and
>>>  key
>>>         establishment signaling for handovers between access networks
>>>  that
>>>         support IEEE 802.21.
>>>
>>>  My suggestion is the word "heterogeneous" should be inserted between
>>>  "between" and "access networks"
>>>
>>>         Define mechanisms to reduce the latency of authentication and
>>>  key
>>>         establishment signaling for handovers between heterogeneous
>>>  access
>>>         networks that support IEEE 802.21.
>>>
>>>  I have no other comments on the rest of the PAR and 5 Criteria
>>>  documents.
>>>
>>>
>>>  -- Jesse
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-cac List *****
>>>  [mailto:STDS-802-11-CAC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter
>> Ecclesine
>>>  (pecclesi)
>>>  Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:35 PM
>>>  To: STDS-802-11-CAC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>  Subject: [STDS-802-11-CAC] FW: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC
>> agenda
>>>
>>>  --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee
>>>  Reflector ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Peter Ecclesine, Technology Analyst, New Markets & New Technologies
>>>
>>>  MS SJ-10-5 170 West Tasman Dr, San Jose, CA 95134-1706
>>>
>>>  Ph 408/527-0815, FAX 408/526-7864
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@IEEE.ORG]
>>>  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>  To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>  Subject: [STDS-802-16] 802 PARs for July EC agenda
>>>
>>>  I have compiled a table of the PARs submitted for July EC approval:
>>>   <http://ieee802.org/16/meetings/mtg56/lmsc/pars.html>
>>>
>>>  If you have any comments, please be prepared to raise them at the
>>>  Opening Plenary meeting of 802.16 Session's #56
>>>   <http://ieee802.org/16/meetings/mtg56>,
>>>  or earlier via this reflector.
>>>
>>>  Roger
>>>
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