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Re: [802.3_GEPOF] FTTH Council market study



Carlos,

 

I think a project should weigh in advantages and disadvantages and not just focus on advantages. When presenting the project documentation to the Working Group, Bob needs to have a bullet proof story.

 

And please, Cat5e taking 5-10 minutes is a story, nothing else.  With little experience one can terminate probably 3-4 connectors in this time, especially when the right tools are used. Moreover, note that rarely cables are terminated today, and snap-on systems for wall-mount sockets for twisted pair make connecting cables not only quick but also fool proof. Not all home installations require patch panels and term shelves – most use snap on connectors, which work just fine and require very little time and experience from an installer.

 

Regards

 

Marek

 

From: Carlos Pardo [mailto:carlospardo@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:21 AM
To: STDS-802-3-GEPOF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_GEPOF] FTTH Council market study

 

Dear all,

in my opinion, the main advantages of POF in the HN vs CAT 5e are:
    + For "in-wall" installation: POF can be installed in the mains conduit. vs CAT 5e can-not.
        - By law, copper data can not share the same conduit than the mains. (Segurity and EMI / EMC reasons)
        - Introducing POF in the conduit is straight forward, where CAT-5e is typically very difficult. ( flexibility and bending handling )
    + For "out-wall" installation, POF is thinner and easier to hide. ( Under the carpet, etc)
    + Easiness of installation:
        - Connection a POF bare fiber connector is 10 s vs CAT 5-e 5-10 min (RJ-45 crimping).
        - POF and Installation and connection can be done by a lower qualified person compared with CAT-5e. ( Even grandma can do it ;-) )

Regarding costs, POF bill of materials should be similar than copper to be competitive. I do not thing that has to be lower than copper, thanks to the operative cost reduction of POF vs copper.

Regards

Carlos Pardo
       

El 22/09/14 15:59, Dai, Eugene (CCI-Atlanta) escribió:

Hi Serizawa: Thanks for the comments. If we talk about office and /or business applications we certainly have to deal with the comparison of POF with CAT5 cables.  However, CAT 5 cable is not really used home networking although we all have short CAT 5 cables here and there at home. The majority of home networking use either coax or Wifi today. With G.hn products roll out, twisted pair phone line may be used for home networking.  If successful in home networking, POF could be extended to office/business applications.  All that time the points you brought out have to be addressed. If GEPOF PHY is lower in cost than 1000BASET PHY,  than it could compete with CAT5 for that market.
 
This remind me that if we that if we want to bring out the office application for POF, we had a brief discussions at Ottawa meeting, we may have to deal with POF and CAT5 comparison as you suggested. 
 
Regards,
Eugene 
 
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From: naoshi.serizawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naoshi.serizawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:18 AM
To: STDS-802-3-GEPOF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_GEPOF] FTTH Council market study
 
Hello Carlos & Eugene,
 
Thank you for sending information for the FTTH. Also, I looked a material that Eugene presented at Ottawa.
Those information themselves are very good to explain about use cases of GEPOF.  However it can be substituted for CAT 5/6 cables to those applications and it seems to be that they are not explaining about the necessity of GEPOF. In order to convince opponents, we should show them strong impacts and advantages of GEPOF technology. Otherwise, we can't answer if they ask us about it.
We should clarify the advantages / cons. against to CAT5/6 cables (cost, weight, relatability, supply chain, max length, workability, etc).
 
I am pleased you to take in to account the above situations.
 
Kind regards,
N Serizawa
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Hayato Yuki [mailto:hayato-yuuki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:23 AM
To: STDS-802-3-GEPOF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_GEPOF] FTTH Council market study
 
Hello Carlos-san,  Cc Menbers,
 
I understand that the European home network market has been growing more and more.
 
However, we should explain that the POF-cable network is superior to the category-cable network for home networking.
 
Thanks,
 
Yuki@Sumitomo
 
 
 
 
Dear all,
 
please find in this public link:
http://www.ftthcouncil.eu/documents/Webinars/2014/Webinar_27May2014.pdf
the latest information of the European FTTH-Council on FTTH deployment.
 
The FTTH deployment can be used as an indicator of the TAM  for the
gigabit Home Networking market.
The FTTH deployment speed in Europe is around 5 Million houses per year.
 
In parallel with this values, we may add TAM values from ADSL/VDSL
deployment, and new/refurbish homes.
 
Best Regards
 
Carlos