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Re: [EFM-OAM] OAM and 802.3ae





Eric,

I also forgot to submit a comment about this but I prefer your latter 
suggestion
and agree that the former one won't make it through working group ballot.

Thanks for following through with this.

Regards,
Ben

Eric Lynskey wrote:

>Back in March, we opened up Clause 46 of 802.3ae to make some minor
>modifications to allow unidirectional OAM to exist across a 10 gigabit link.
>Previously, sending data across the unidirectional link was not allowed.
>The proposed changes to clause 46 allow for frames to be sent that are
>completely surrounded by FAULT codes.
>
>As the editors note on page 104 mentions, in Clause 49, the 64B/66B PCS
>encoder does not allow a frame to be followed directly by a fault code.  It
>needs to see idle after the frame or it is errored and discarded.  There are
>four possible cases when a frame is terminated.  Since the XGMII uses four
>lanes, the frame can end and be terminated on any of the four lanes, 0, 1,
>2, or 3.
>
>Now, before I get into the gory details of fixing 802.3ae to make OAM work,
>I have a question on Figure 57-4.  According to 57.3.2.1, on the bottom of
>page 127, it says that if local_link_status equals FAIL, that the state
>machine will reset to the CHECK_MODE state and will therefore set
>local_stable <= UNSTABLE.  However, it will maintain the previous value of
>local_tx.  If the previous state was SEND_ANY, then local_tx will still be
>ANY.
>
>If local_link_status stays set to FAIL, the DUT will not enter the
>ACTIVE_SEND_LOCAL or PASSIVE_WAIT states due to the global transition into
>the CHECK_MODE state.  Therefore, the DUT will not reset local_tx to INFO or
>NONE.  It will stay in the CHECK_MODE state until local_link_status changes
>from FAIL and will not change local_tx until this happens.  My first
>question is whether or not this is the desired mode of operation or do you
>want the DUT to reset local_tx to the appropriate value (INFO or NONE) when
>you go to a unidirectional link from a full link?
>
>Regardless, I'll describe a couple of options for modifications to 802.3ae.
>One option, which probably won't make it past working group ballot, would be
>to modify Clause 49 to allow for a frame to have a fault code following the
>terminate.  Of course, there is only one available code word that maintains
>the necessary Hamming distance, and as mentioned above, 4 possible
>terminations.  If a device resets local_tx when local_link_status=FAIL, then
>it will only be sending information OAMPDUs, which are a fixed 64 byte
>length.  The option would be to use the remaining Clause 49 code to account
>for when the terminate is on lane 0 (which happens when the frame length is
>an even multiple of 4) and the problem is solved.  If a device doesn't reset
>local_tx, then frames of any length could be sent from the CHECK_MODE state
>and this really can't be solved with a change to Clause 49.
>
>The other solution is to keep all of the changes in Clause 46.  We could
>require that the RS transmits at least one full column of idle following the
>column that has the terminate before transmitting any fault codes.  This is
>effectively done automatically in the Clause 48 PCS already.  I think this
>is really the only option we have open to us if we want to support
>unidirectional OAM traffic for 802.3ae.  This also future-proofs the
>existence of other ordered_sets that may be defined to use a Clause 49 PCS.
>
>I forget about submitting a comment on this, but I'm going to put together
>some text to be included in Clause 46 anyway.  Does anyone have any comments
>on this?
>
>- Eric Lynskey
>
>
>
>  
>

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