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RE: FW: +++ BALLOT: Interim Meeting Agreement

Geoff,  I think you are misunderstanding the proposal.  All of the expenses 
for the Orlando meeting are being paid by the meeting fees collected from 
the attendees (just as we do at a plenary meeting).  The plan is to tailor the 
expenses at the meeting to come out with net balance of $0.  Thus there 
will be no impact on IEEE 802 treasury.  The only role being played by 
IEEE 802 is to serve as the hosting body  to make the meeting arrangements
and ensure that the Hotel agreement conforms to our stand policies.  The 
meeting fees collected from the attendees will cover all of the actual expenses.  
It is possible to track and adjust expenses during the meeting so that they 
exactly match the funds collected.  It is NOT the case that the 802 Treasury 
is subsidizing one meeting and not the other.  
Thanx,  Buzz
Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
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> From: 	Geoff Thompson[]
> Sent: 	Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:03 PM
> To: 	jcarlo
> Cc: 	IEEE802
> Subject: 	Re: FW: +++ BALLOT: Interim Meeting Agreement
> In the current form I vote DISAPPROVE
> I cannot support such a discriminatory allocation of funds, i.e. to the 
> group consisting of
> 802.11
> 802.15
> 802.16
> and excluding
> 802.1
> 802.3
> 802.17
> If a more equitable arrangement is offered I would be more inclined to 
> support it.
> Geoff
> At 04:39 PM 12/1/00 -0600, Jim Carlo wrote:
> >Howard Frazier -
> >Bob Grow -
> >Paul Nikolich - Approve
> >Buzz Rigsbee - Approve
> >Vic Hayes - Approve with Comment
> >Tony Jeffree - Approve
> >Geoff Thompson -
> >Bob Love - Do Not Approve
> >Stuart Kerry - Approve
> >Bob Heile - Approve
> >Roger Marks - Approve
> >Jim Carlo - Chair
> >Stuart Kerry, who is here with me at the moment in the Netherlands has also
> >approved this motion. After the November 2000 motion the original wireless
> >hosts for dot11, dot15 and dot16 (ParkerVision and Intersil) have not moved
> >forward with hotel and meeting facilities because they were convinced that
> >802 was taking care of the organization and liability issues. Vic Hayes
> >I vote conditionally approve based on 802.17 being added to the list of
> >working groups to meet in Orlando.  Otherwise I must vote NO.  This motion
> >failed to capture the spirit of the email discussion that directly preceeded
> >it.  The previous e-mail suggests that 802.17 prefers Orlando to Sacramento,
> >directily contradicting Note 3.  Will all those that have already voted in
> >support of this motion please send an e-mail to the reflector stating that
> >you support my requested change? Thank you. Bob Love
> >Issue Date: 29Nov2000 Closing Date: 3Dec2000
> >Moved By: Buzz Rigsbee
> >Move: Approve that IEEE 802 financially back-up the commitment for the
> >following Working Groups to hold their interim meeting in Orlando on
> >14-18May. The plan is this meeting will run on a break even financial basis.
> >802.11
> >802.15
> >802.16
> >Notes:
> >1) 802.11, 802.15, 802.16 are committed to attend this meeting.
> >2) Bob Grow an I will need to have a financial report of this interim
> >meeting, to be prepared and presented at the SEC in July. Will work out the
> >details in March.
> >3) This note is not part of the motion, and outside the scope of 802 SEC.
> >However, 802.3, 802.1, 802.17 currently plan to hold a separate meeting,
> >hosted by Intel in Sacramento during the week of May 28 - June 1. Note that
> >this is Memorial Day weekend. Note also that this motion does not have any
> >commitment on this meetings, just a possible plan, that might and probably
> >will change.
> >Jim Carlo( Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274> 
> >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> >Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee