Re: Cost Discussions
Mike, if we keep in mind that the purpose of not discussing pricing is to
avoid the appearance of collusion, then we could assume a vendor involved
with setting the sale price may not bring that price up to the WG. However,
vendors that need to purchase these components can discuss how much it costs
them to buy various sets of components for the different possible
implementations, as these would be costs to the vendors speaking on the
If we want to put an additional safety fence around all our discussions,
then we could ask that even these numbers be given in terms of relative
costs. However, I don't believe we are violating policy if we state as
vendors that to implement proposal "A" I would need to buy discreet
capacitors at an estimated cost of $0.25 per box, and solution "B" would
require me to buy transformers which would have an estimated cost of $1.50
per box. Please factor this difference in costs that go into the final
product in making a selection.
Others, any comments on my interpretation.
Robert D. Love
Chair, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
President, LAN Connect Consultants
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Jeffree" <email@example.com>
To: "Mike Takefman" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: "Geoff Thompson" <email@example.com>; "jcarlo"
<firstname.lastname@example.org>; "IEEE802" <email@example.com>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Cost Discussions
> Mike -
> Tricky, isn't it. I'm afraid that's the "price" you pay for being a
> Chair... ;-)
> At 17:40 23/03/2001 -0500, Mike Takefman wrote:
> >Jim, Geoff,
> >I hate to sound stupid my first time out, but isn't one person's
> >cost the previous person's price ? So I cannot talk about optics
> >module costs, or ASIC costs since I purchase those components at a price.
> >What rule can I use as chair to determine whether people are
> >truely talking about the cost of something?
> >Geoff Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim-
> > >
> > > As far as I am concerned, it has been a "Chair's Guideline" ever since
> > > was put up by Don Loughry in 1988. I have the original slide and have
> > > using it for years when the occasion is appropriate. The only
> > > that David has transcribed the slide verbatim and posted it on our web
> > site.
> > >
> > > I guess the problem is that even though it has been there all along no
> > > else knew/remembered it.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > > At 12:34 PM 3/23/01 -0600, Jim Carlo wrote:
> > > >Steve Carlson referred his task force to a note below. Should we make
> > this a
> > > >Chair's guideline?
> > > >
> > > >Jim Carlo(firstname.lastname@example.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776
> > > >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> > > >Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> > > >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> > > >