Thread Links Date Links
Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index

[802SEC] FW: BOUNCE stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org: Non-member submission from [k.mccabe@ieee.org]






 -Bob
 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:21 AM
To: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: BOUNCE stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org: Non-member submission from
[k.mccabe@ieee.org] 


From owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org Thu Dec 13 09:21:11 2001
Received: from aries.ieee.org (aries.ieee.org [140.98.191.43])
	by ruebert.ieee.org (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id
fBDELBJ22068
	for <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:21:11
-0500 (EST)
Received: from buzz.ieee.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by aries.ieee.org (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id
fBDEL7908005;
	Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:21:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Error in What's New @ IEEE in Communications, December 2001
To: "Paul Nikolich" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
Cc: a.ortiz@ieee.org, stds-802-sec@ieee.org, m.plessel@ieee.org
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3  March 21, 2000
Message-ID: <OFFB0DCC88.0FC1099B-ON85256B21.004E7AC1@ieee.org>
From: k.mccabe@ieee.org
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:21:02 -0500
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Buzz/US/IEEE(Release 5.0.8 |June 18,
2001) at 12/13/2001
 09:21:07 AM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Hi Paul,
First, please accept our apologies. I, along with my colleague, Markus
Plessel, have been in direct contact with the Editors of the IEEE What's
News newsletters. We have demanded that all standards related news items
(even if "picked" up from other sources, etc.) be approved by us, along
with appropriate standards working group members. They have agreed to do
such.

As for this latest instance. I believe they put together the What's News in
Communications prior to our request. I agree with you, along  with the 802
groups, that a tighter review and control process should be in place. We
will assure that this happens.

Thanks!
Karen

Karen McCabe
Senior Marketing Manager, IEEE Standards
445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331
Piscataway NJ 08855 USA
PH: +1 732 562 3824
email: k.mccabe@ieee.org
http://standards.ieee.org


 

                    "Paul Nikolich"

                    <paul.nikolich@worldne       To:
<stds-802-sec@ieee.org>, <a.ortiz@ieee.org>,                  
                    t.att.net>                    <k.mccabe@ieee.org>

                                                 cc:

                    12/12/2001 08:45 PM          Subject:     Error in
What's New @ IEEE in Communications, December   
                    Please respond to             2001

                    "Paul Nikolich"

 

 





Karen and Angela,

You must improve the controls which govern the release of news items from
the What's News editors.  The What's New @ IEEE in Communications Dec 2001
has picked up on the same erroneous news announcement that Jim received
last
week.  See below:

http://www.ieee.org/products/whats-new/wncomm1201.htm#5
"5. NEW WIRELESS NETWORK STANDARD APPROVED
The IEEE's approval of the 802.11g standard is a definite boost for
wireless
networking and a step toward higher wireless Internet speeds.
standards.ieee.org/announcements/80211gadv.html
802.11 Working Group: grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/ "

As you know 802.11g is not even close to being complete--it is still in the
WG draft stage.

We must improve our internal coordination so as not to send out wrong
messages.  Please let me know what will be done to minimize these errors.
Evidently the current approach is not working.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich
Chair, IEEE802



----- Original Message -----
From: <a.ortiz@ieee.org>
To: <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Re: What's New @ IEEE in Wireless, November 2001


>
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: k.mccabe@ieee.org [mailto:k.mccabe@ieee.org]
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 5:59 PM
> To: j.carlo@ieee.org
> Cc: a.ortiz@ieee.org; kmccabe@ieee.org
> Subject: What's New @ IEEE in Wireless, November 2001
>
> Hi Jim,
> First, on behalf of the IEEE, please accept our apologies. This news item
> was not run by Standards staff prior to its inclusion in the Wireless
> What's News. Many editors of the What's News vehicles scan and pick up
news
> items (like the one in CNet) to beef up the info in their respective
> newsletters--leveraging the high level of exposure that some out our 802
> standards projects are getting these days. We do not advocate this, since
> we are especially sensitive to incorrect and mis-positioned news
regarding
> the IEEE's standards work, etc. and are working hard to rectify that
> situation.
>
> Please be assured, we are diligently following up on this particular
issue,
> as well as the larger issue at hand, with the respective What's News
> editors.  We are requiring that all news items regarding standards be
> reviewed by staff and the respective standards group's interested
parties.
> We further are discouraging the "picking up" of stories from news sources
> and strongly encouraging that they use/depend upon the new IEEE 802
e-news
> bulletin.
>
> Thanks!
> Karen
>
> Karen McCabe
> Senior Marketing Manager, IEEE Standards
> 445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331
> Piscataway NJ 08855 USA
> PH: +1 732 562 3824
> email: k.mccabe@ieee.org
> http://standards.ieee.org
>
>
>
>                     "Jim Carlo"
>                     <jtcarlo@worldne       To:     "Karen McCabe"
> <kmccabe@ieee.org>
>                     t.att.net>             cc:     "Angela Ortiz"
> <a.ortiz@ieee.org>
>                                            Subject:     FW: [802SEC] Re:
> What's New @ IEEE in Wireless, November
>                     12/02/01 07:02          2001
>                     PM
>                     Please respond
>                     to j.carlo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> fyi. I guess it is one thing for commercial press to get the fact wrong.
It
> is another thing for IEEE press to get the facts wrong - there is no
> standard.
>
> Jim Carlo (j.carlo@ieee.org) Phone:1-214-853-5274 Fax:1214-853-5274
> Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> Chair, IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Roger B.
> Marks
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 5:08 PM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] Re: What's New @ IEEE in Wireless, November 2001
>
>
>
> During a meeting in Austin, we discussed the fact that people in the
> IEEE staff but outside the IEEE-SA often misunderstand critical
> issues regarding IEEE standards.
>
> Here is an example of something I received yesterday in the "WHAT'S
> NEW @ IEEE IN WIRELESS" newsletter:
>
> >NEW WIRELESS NETWORK STANDARD COMING SOON: The IEEE's tentative approval
> of
> >the new 802.11g standard is a boost for wireless networking and a step
> >toward higher wireless Internet speeds.
> ><http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-7892860.html>
>
> I don't think that 802.11 is representing 802.11g as a "tentatively
> approved standard". It's hard to control the press, but it's
> definitely more difficult to get the point across accurately when
> people at IEEE echo it indiscriminately.
>
> How about a discussion at the Standards Board about an IEEE policy
> that IEEE news publications should confirm stories about IEEE
> standards prior to publication?
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> At 2:28 PM -0500 01/11/28, whatsnewadmin@ieee.org wrote:
> >WHAT'S NEW @ IEEE IN WIRELESS
> >
> >VOLUME 2          NUMBER 11          NOVEMBER 2001
> >
> >An HTML version of this newsletter can be viewed on our
> >online archive at <http://www.ieee.org/whats-new/archive>
> >
> >CONTENTS:
> >1. Can Wireless Short Messaging Make it Big in the U.S.?
> >2. Wireless Local Area and Home Networks Featured in IEEE Communications
> >Magazine
> >3. FCC to Ease Airwave Restrictions
> >4. Nuclear Power: An IEEE Spectrum Special Report
> >5. Wireless Networking Conference Comes to Orlando
> >6. Citation Study: IEEE Publishes Nine of Top 10 Engineering Journals
> >7. IEEE Standard 802.11b Wins Killer App Award
> >8. IEEE Assists Members in Job Search
> >9. Remote Meetings: Being There Without Going Anywhere
> >10. Noted Networking Author Releases New Wireless Resource
> >11. IEEE Election Results: Michael J. Adler 2002 President-Elect
> >
> >
*************************************************************************
> >
> >What's New @ IEEE in Wireless is a monthly, opt-in e-mail update
designed
> >to provide you with the latest news regarding IEEE activities, industry
> >trends, career development tips, and new IEEE product releases. We
welcome
> >your feedback on this service.
> >
> >Managing Editor: John Platt MailTo:j.platt@ieee.org
> >Editor: Michael Spada MailTo:m.spada@ieee.org
> >
> >SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE INFORMATION
> >There are several other What's New @ IEEE newsletters to choose from. To
> >subscribe to another newsletter enter your email address at <
> >http://whatsnew.ieee.org> and click "Subscribe." To Unsubscribe to
What's
> >New @ IEEE, logon to <http://whatsnew.ieee.org> to select the
appropriate
> >newsletter, enter your email address and click "Unsubscribe."
> >
> >What's New @ IEEE is intended for the interest of IEEE members and
> >customers and may be shared with other parties. The newsletter, in its
> >entirety or in part, may be reproduced with proper credit given to its
> >source, What's New @ IEEE. For more information, contact the Managing
> >Editor.
> >
> >Copyright 2001 IEEE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>