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RE: [802SEC] RE: Motion - Rules Change to add a second SEC vice chair





Thanks Paul for the clarification.

- Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:Paul.nikolich@worldnet.att.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 14:46
To: Stuart Kerry; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: Motion - Rules Change to add a second SEC vice
chair



Stuart,

You are correct, the structure of the letter ballot is somewhat
ambiguous. Please let me clarify--

The letter ballot covers all the text contained in the BOX OUTLINE of
the PDF file, including the sentence contained in 5.1.4.5 that you point
out. Please remember, the intent of the text change is simply to correct
the grammar from the current text of one of the sentences contained in
5.1.4.5:

"The LMSC Executive Committee may remove the Chair or Vice Chair of a
Working Group or TAG for cause."

to allow for the case where multiple Vice Chairs may exist:

"The LMSC Executive Committee may remove the Chair or <<a>> Vice Chair
of a Working Group or TAG for cause."

The change does not intend to fully replace 5.1.4.5 with the single
sentence above.  The full text contained under 5.1.4.5 does define the
conditions under which a Chair a Vice Chair may be removed by referring
to the Computer Society Standards Activities Board Policies and
Procedures.

I apologize for the confusion.  I hope this resolves your concern.

--Paul



----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
stuart.kerry@philips.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:09 PM
To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] RE: Motion - Rules Change to add a second SEC vice
chair



Paul,

Please could you clarify the item addressed below, in your MOTION "Rules
Change to add a second SEC vice chair".

5.1.4.5 Removal of Working Group Chairs or Vice Chairs.
The LMSC Executive Committee may remove the Chair or a Vice Chair of a
Working Group or TAG for cause.

Surely this is not part of this MOTION, if it is maybe you should have
included in the MOTION:

"Removal of the SEC Chair, SEC Vice Chairs, Working Group Chairs, WG
Vice Chairs or TAG Chairs. The LMSC Executive Committee may remove the
SEC Chair or a SEC Vice Chair or a Working Group or TAG Chair or there
Vice Chair(s) for JUST cause."

This assumes that CAUSE is clearly defined or left so nebulous that
anything can be.

PLEASE CLARIFY this point whether it is in the motion or is
inappropriate to this motion.

I do think though that we do have a hole in our rules that needs to be
clarified better regarding this very point. If it is not in this motion
then separate one may be required at a later date.

I await you answer.

Respectfully,

Stuart J. Kerry
Chairperson, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG