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RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on WG electronic voting


The LMSC rules have always allowed Working Group Chairs to decide
procedural issues. In all the Working Groups in which I have 
participated, almost all procedural issues (or substantive ones
at least) are decided by a 50% vote of the Working Group. 

I think that is okay because a Chair can delegate a decision
that he/she is authorized to make to a vote of the Working 
Group. The one exception is where the resolution of an issue 
could violate the rules governing our operation. A Working
Group chair has responsibility to keep the group within the
operating rules. There have been cases where Chairs did not
allow a motion or overruled a procedural vote because it 
was not consistant with the rules, but such a need is fairly

The 802.3 Operating Rules state: "The Chair of a TF may decide 
procedural issues or may put them to a vote of the TF." which
makes this more clear for its Task Force Chairs.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Quackenbush []
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:27 AM
Cc: 'IEEE802'
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
WG electronic voting


In section of the LMSC Rules, which is part of the text of this
proposed rules change, there is a statement that "The Chair of the
Working Group decides procedural issues".  Is this correct?

I was under the impression that the Chair decided whether a motion was
procedural or technical, but that the Working Group decided both
technical and procedural issues by vote.

Am I misinformed or is this text wrong?



Paul Nikolich wrote:
> Dear SEC members,
> Attached you will find the text for the SEC rules change letter ballot on
> Electronic Voting.  (Note this is a resend of the March 17, 2002 letter
> ballot notice with the start time revised to 4/1/02 because we did not
> officially approve it for distribution until last night.  Other than that
> is unchanged).
> Scope:  To permit voting by electronic means at the working group level.
> Purpose: To facilitate the WG consensus process.
> The ballot opens April 1, 2002 and closes June 8, 2002 12 midnight EDT
> (remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE
> vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the 802-wide email list as
> well.  WG chairs, if you haven't already done so, please invite your WG
> members to comment through you.
> Regards,
> --Paul Nikolich
> Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Project
> email:
> cell:    857.205.0050
> mail:   18 Bishops Lane, Lynnfield, MA 01940
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