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RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on SEC electronic balloting


Thanks for seeing and pointing out what should have been obvious over the
years we have been working on electronic balloting.  All "letter" ballots
should be electronic.  

--Bob Grow

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree []
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:25 AM
To: Matthew Sherman
Cc: 'IEEE802'
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
SEC electronic balloting

I agree with the intent of this change; however, I have to vote Disapprove, 
as I see no reason why we would ever do anything other than an electronic 
ballot, now or in the future. In other words, rather than fixing up the 
text to deal with both paper and electronic ballots, I believe we should 
fix up the text to remove paper ballots and to make it clear that all 
balloting that we conduct from here on will be electronic.

Rationale: There is absolutely no point in incurring the expense & 
administrative pain of paper balloting given that we have a better, more 
efficient, and cheaper alternative in the form of electronic balloting. I 
believe we will never conduct any more paper ballots in the future - I, for 
one, would not vote to approve expenditure of LMSC funds on a paper ballot, 
in the unlikely event of one being proposed, and I suspect I wouldn't be 
the only Exec member with that view. Therefore, we shouldn't complicate our 
rules by trying to accommodate two mechanisms where one is all that we 
actually need.


At 23:28 27/08/2002 -0400, Matthew Sherman wrote:
>Dear SEC members,
>Attached you will find the text for an SEC rules change letter ballot on
>Electronic Balloting.  Note that this letter ballot was originally approved
>at the Friday March 15, 2002 plenary session, but was never sent out.  I
>to regenerate the text to be balloted from the minutes of the March SEC
>meeting.  It happens there have been some minor updates to the text in
>question based on more recent rules changes ("1st" has been inserted in
>front of "Vice Chair").  Also the phrase "(or other Executive Committee
>member designated by the LMSC Chair)" was not indicated as a change in the
>March SEC meeting minutes, but is clearly added text.  Finally, I added an
>editorial comma after "The Chair" in  The text could probably be
>improved with further such editorial, but I'll leave that for the rest of
>The scope and purpose of the changes being balloted is as follows:
>Scope:  To improve the SEC process for electronic balloting.
>Purpose: To facilitate the SEC consensus process.
>The ballot opens August 27, 2002 and closes October 28, 2002 12 midnight
>(remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE
>vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the "802ALL" email list as
>well.  WG chairs, if you haven't already done so, please invite your WG
>members to comment through you.
>  <<SEC e-ballot rules change.pdf>>
>Matthew Sherman
>Vice Chair, IEEE 802
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