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Re: [802SEC] Proposed 802 survey form

At 8:30 AM -0800 02/11/08, Bill Quackenbush wrote:
>WOW, that is much more support for the survey than I expected.  Thanks.
>While doing the survey on the web offers solutions to a bunch of
>problems, there are some issues.
>	1)  I did receiver some comments on the survey that were not broadcast
>to the 802 SEC alias.  These comments led to some minor changes in some
>of the questions and the addition of another question.  Unfortunately I
>did not have change tracking turned on when I made the changes.  The
>updated survey is attached.

No problem; Word can compare documents. I've updated the on-line 
version. I've made one change, which I can alter if you like. Namely, 
I extended "We need to have the following equipment provided" by 
adding "and the cost included in the meeting registration fee." This 
parallels your language on the food service.

>	2)  I would like to record each responder's answers as a row (or
>column) in an Excel spread sheet.  That way correlations between
>responders can be investigated if we want/need to.  Just keeping
>counters of how may responders give a particular answer looses that 

I'll have this data and can easily generate the report you want.

>	3)  Whether to place a link to the survey in a more obvious place,
>perhaps the "IEEE 802 Plenary/interim meeting information" page 

Fine by me. I thought you wanted to limit the survey to those in 
Kauai. I was thinking of putting it on the Dot16 server there, for 
local access only. However, I also added "not attending" as a 
response to (1), in case we want a wider audience (though a less 
defined one).

If you put the survey on the Internet, my suggestion is to leave it 
unadvertised, except in Kauai, so that you have a well-defined survey 
group. Maybe afterwards you could use it for remote responders in a 
separate data set.

>	4)  Will we get a comparable response rate using the web versus passing
>out paper surveys in a meeting?  I certainly don't know the answer to
>this, but it concerns me.

I don't know. I don't mind having paper forms in the registration 
area, but I'd rather not introduce the disruption inside our meetings.


>	5)  What do other members of the SEC think of doing this on the web?
>802 SEC comments and suggestions are requested.
>"Roger B. Marks" wrote:
>>  Bill,
>>  I've turned the survey into an HTML form:
>  >
>>  I'll mention it during the .16 Opening Plenary; I'll put a hyperlink
>>  to it on the agenda. Submissions will go to me.
>>  Depending on your deadline, I'll stop taking responses, compile the
>>  data, and send the summary to you. When do you need it?
>>  Do you just want the totals for each question, or do you want some
>>  kind of database to do something fancy, like correlate responses?
>  >
>  > I don't mind if other groups want to use this link. Collecting the
>  > data will be the same amount of work regardless of how many forms I
>  > process.
>  >
>  > Roger
>  >
>  > At 7:58 AM -0800 02/11/07, Bill Quackenbush wrote:
>>  >All,
>>  >
>>  >For purposes of interim planning, a survey was conducted at the
>  > >September 802.1/.3/.17 interim in New Orleans.  The survey was developed
>  > >primarily by the Howard Frazier, the Chair of 802.3ah and Steve Carlson,
>  > >the Chair of 802.3af.  The information developed from the survey has
>  > >been determined to be quite useful and is being used in the planning of
>  > >the January 802.1/.3 interim in Vancouver.
>  > >
>  > >In light of the need to increase the 802 Pleanry registration fees, Buzz
>  > >and I would like to conduct a similar survey in Kauai to determine that
>>  >802 is providing a set services and accommodations that are desired by
>>  >Plenary meeting attendees and at an acceptable price.
>>  >
>>  >To that end I have prepared the attached survey form.  With Howard's
>>  >permission I have borrowed MASSIVELY from Howard's and Steve's survey.
>>  >The strong points of the attached survey are almost certainly borrowed
>  > >from Howard and Steve, the weak points are mine.
>>  >
>>  >I know this is short notice, but I request that all 802 SEC members, and
>>  >anyone else who is interested, please review the survey and provide me
>>  >guidance as you see fit.  If you elect to edit the document, please turn
>>  >on "change tracking" so that I can quickly what you have done.
>>  >
>>  >Also, would the Chair of each WG/TAG indicate whether they would be will
>>  >to take a few minutes out of one of their meetings to allow the survey
>>  >to be completed.  Form completion was done just after lunch at the New
>>  >Orleans interim and the return rate was very high.
>>  >
>>  >My thanks in advance,
>>  >
>  > >wlq