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Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on Rules Title Change




Roger, my hat is off to you.  Great job.

Mat, this is a good lesson that there is no such thing as a simple change.
It is a good lesson for all of us about the amount of care and review we
need to "improve" our documents.

Best regards,

Robert D. Love
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President, LAN Connect Consultants
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----- Original Message -----
From: <mjsherman@research.att.com>
To: <r.b.marks@ieee.org>; <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on Rules
Title Change



Roger,

Excellent point!  Thanks.  I'll include this on comment resolution.

Mat

Matthew Sherman
Vice Chair, IEEE 802
Technology Consultant
Communications Technology Research
AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
Room B255, Building 103
180 Park Avenue
P.O. Box 971
Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971
Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925
Fax: +1 (973) 360-5877
EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:19 PM
To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
Rules Title Change


I vote Disapprove.

The change would introduce inconsistencies in the document; even the
document's many references to itself would be incorrect. These could
be addressed by the following changes:

*Footer on each page changed from "LMSC OPERATING RULES" to "LMSC
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES".

*In Clause 1, change "In the event of any conflict between these
rules and..." to "In the event of any conflict between this document
and..."

*Change title of Clause 3.6 from "Change of Rules" to "Change of
Policies and Procedures".

*Change opening of Clause 3.6 from "These rules of the operation of
the LMSC" to "These LMSC Policies and Procedures".

*Change title of 3.6.1 from "Initiation of Proposed Rules Changes" to
"Initiation of Proposed Changes to LMSC Policies and Procedures"

*Change title of 3.6.2 from "Executive Committee Action on Proposed
Rules Changes" to "Executive Committee Action on Proposed Changes to
LMSC Policies and Procedures"

*In 3.6.1 and 3.6.5, change "LMSC Operating Rules" to "LMSC Policies
and Procedures".

*In 3.6.1 (1b), strike the word "rule".

*In the last paragraph of 3.6.1, strike the word "rule".

*In the first line of 3.6.2, strike the word "rules".

*In the first line of 3.6.5, strike the word "rules".

*In the second sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, strike the
word "rules".

*In the third sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, change "the
rules" to "they".

*In the fourth sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, strike
"rules" and "rule".

*Change 5.1.4.6 from:

"If Working Group operation conflicts with the LMSC Operating Rules,
then the LMSC Operating Rules shall take precedence."

to

"If Working Group operation conflicts with the LMSC Policies and
Procedures, then the LMSC Policies and Procedures shall take
precedence."

*In Condition 1 of Procedure 10, change "IEEE 802 Operating Rules" to
"LMSC Policies and Procedures" and change "current IEEE 802 Operating
Rule URL" to "current URL of the LMSC Policies and Procedures".

Roger


At 10:50 AM -0500 03/01/06, <mjsherman@research.att.com> wrote:
>Dear SEC members,
>
>Attached you will find the text for an SEC rules change letter
>ballot to change the title of the LMSC Rules.  This letter ballot
>was approved at the Friday, November 15, 2002 plenary session.  I
>have made some minor editorial changes to the text originally
>presented (inserted dates / corrected grammar).
>
>The scope and purpose of the changes being balloted are as follows:
>
>Purpose: To clarify the relationship between the LMSC rules, and
>those required by the IEEE SA Standards Board
>
>Scope:  Modify title to clarify relationship
>
>The ballot opens today - January 6, 2003 and closes February 6, 2003
>at 11:59 PM EST. (remember if you do not vote or abstain it is
>equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets
>sent to the "802ALL" email list as well.  WG chairs, if you haven't
>already done so, please invite your WG members to comment through
>you.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Mat
>
>  <<0211SEC_rules_title_change_v3.pdf>>
>
>Matthew Sherman
>Vice Chair, IEEE 802
>Technology Consultant
>Communications Technology Research
>AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
>Room B255, Building 103
>180 Park Avenue
>P.O. Box 971
>Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971
>Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925
>Fax: +1 (973) 360-5877
>EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com