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RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on SEC electronic balloting




Thanks Mat. Your suggestion looks fine to me. Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: mjsherman@research.att.com [mailto:mjsherman@research.att.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:38 PM
To: pat_thaler@agilent.com; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
SEC electronic balloting


Pat,

I agree with all your suggestions.  If I were to effect what you suggest
regarding a minimum duration on rules change ballots, I would do the
following:

In section 3.6.3 after "rules changes" I would insert "shall be at least
30 days in length, and"

I'm open to further comment, but we can work the details during comment
resolution.

Mat


Matthew Sherman 
Vice Chair, IEEE 802 
Technology Consultant 
Communications Technology Research 
AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory 
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-----Original Message-----
From: pat_thaler@agilent.com [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:34 PM
To: Sherman,Matthew J (Matthew); stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
SEC electronic balloting

Mat,

This is an improvement, but I still have some comments.

Substantive: There is a requirement that ballots be forwarded to WG and
TAG reflectors within 5 working days, but no requirement for minimum
duration of ballots so that distribution may occur after the Executive
Committee ballot has closed. At a minimum, at least put in a requirement
that the ballot duration be something longer than 5 working days. 

There is no minimum duration for rules change ballots and no minimum
time between  distribution of the rules change and close of the ballot.
In the existing rules that time period is 30 days. A rules change should
not be done lightly and urgency is not dictating a short duration so it
should have a minimum time period. 30 days would be reasonable.

Editorial: 3.4.2.1 "shall determine minimum duration of the ballot,
issue the ballot and tally the results." reads better to me because that
is the order one does the actions. 

Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: mjsherman@research.att.com [mailto:mjsherman@research.att.com]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:41 AM
To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on SEC
electronic balloting


Dear SEC members,

Attached you will find the text for an SEC rules change letter ballot on
SEC Electronic Balloting.  This letter ballot was approved at the
Friday, November 15, 2002 plenary session.  I have made some minor
editorial changes to the text originally presented (inserted dates /
corrected grammar).  The ballot relates to a prior letter ballot on the
same subject but (as explained in the letter ballot text) it is
substantially changed.

The scope and purpose of the changes being balloted are as follows:

Purpose: To facilitate the SEC consensus process.

Scope:  To clarify and improve the SEC process for balloting.

The ballot opens today - January 6, 2003 and closes February 6, 2003 12
at 11:59 PM EDT. (remember if you do not vote or abstain it is
equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to
the "802ALL" email list as well.  WG chairs, if you haven't already done
so, please invite your WG members to comment through you.  


Regards,

Mat

 <<0211SEC_SEC_e-ballot_rules_change_R2.pdf>> 


Matthew Sherman
Vice Chair, IEEE 802
Technology Consultant
Communications Technology Research 
AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory 
Room B255, Building 103 
180 Park Avenue 
P.O. Box 971 
Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971 
Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925 
Fax: +1 (973) 360-5877 
EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com