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FW: [802SEC] Sponsor Ballot periods--recommended minimum durations




Bob-

I think your characterization the times "have been undisputed for years"
is
incorrect.

The times that I believe "have been undisputed for years" are the
following
for paper ballots:
          5 days for mailing time: Piscataway -> Post Office -> Balloter
         30 days in hand for the balloter
          5 days for mailing time: Balloter-> Post Office -> Piscataway
         40 days TOTAL actual time for a 30 day initial Sponsor Ballot

          5 days for mailing time: Piscataway -> Post Office -> Balloter
         10 days in hand for the balloter
          5 days for mailing time: Balloter-> Post Office -> Piscataway
         20 days TOTAL actual time for a 10 day Sponsor Ballot
recirculation

Ballot periods for electronic ballots have been in discussion for quite
some time. I know because I have been an opinionated participant in the
discussions.

What is new is our focus/discussion on whether or not (1) we own the
schedule for Sponsor Ballots or not and (2) whether there is a different
schedule for Sponsor Ballots vs. Working Group ballots.

Geoff

At 07:07 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, Bob Heile wrote:
>Paul
>
>I strongly object. I have built schedules around times that have been
>undisputed for years (as demonstrated by Roger's research) and will
have
>two recircs coming up that need to be completed before DFW and
anticipated
>10 day recircs.  I personally think 10 days in more than adequate as I
>suspect many members of the SEC would as well.  If we want to change
the
>rules, even on a temporary basis, then it should be for new sponsor
>ballots not ones in process.  Personally, I think the 30, 10 combo has
>been just fine and we should let things be until we attempt a change in
>the rules.
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
>At 03:59 PM 2/6/03 -0500, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>
>>Dear SEC Members,
>>
>>The minimum duration of Sponsor Initial and Recirculation Ballot
periods
are
>>ambiguous.  Therefore, as a matter of temporary policy for the IEEE
802
>>LAN/MAN Standards Committee, I hereby recommend that henceforth:
>>1)  the duration of a Sponsor Initial Ballot shall be greater than or
equal
>>to 30days*24hours in duration and
>>2) that the duration of a Sponsor Recirculation Ballot shall be
greater
than
>>or equal to 15days*24hours.
>>
>>The above periods are equal to our Working Group Initial and
Recirculation
>>Ballot periods.
>>
>>This temporary policy would be in effect until the LMSC Operating
Rules
can
>>modified to formally remove the ambiguity in the duration of Sponsor
Initial
>>and Recirculation Ballots.
>>
>>If there are no objections to the above policy, I recommend we follow
it
>>starting immediately.  I can make sure the above minimum durations are
>>observed by the SA balloting center.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>--Paul Nikolich
>>Chairman, IEEE 802
>
>
>
>Bob Heile, Ph.D
>Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Personal Area Networks
>Chair, ZigBee Alliance
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>