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Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance with SA Model P&P



Based on Bill and Bob's disapproves (and Bob's comments), I vote
DISAPROVE.

(Maybe we can sort it out in the rules meeting in Portland ...)

Carl

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:quackenbush@ieee.org]
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)
> Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
> compliance with SA Model P&P
>
>
> Carl,
>
> It will be at least a couple of days before my reading,
> comparing the old and new versions and comment generation is complete.
>
> wlq
>
> "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" wrote:
> >
> > I was waiting to see Bill's comments ...
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf
> Of Sherman,
> > > Matthew J. (US SSA)
> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:25 PM
> > > To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
> compliance with
> > > SA Model P&P
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > FYI, tomorrow is the last day to vote, and so far Bill's
> is the only
> > > vote I have received.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mat
> > >
> > > Matthew Sherman, PhD
> > > Senior Member Technical Staff
> > > BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> > > Office: +1 973.633.6344
> > > email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill
> > > Quackenbush
> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:24 PM
> > > To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
> compliance with
> > > SA Model P&P
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I vote DISAPPROVE with comments to follow.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > wlq
> > >
> > > "Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear EC members,
> > > > This email initiates a EC P&P Revision Ballot.  The ballot
> > > opens today
> > > > - May 15, 2004 and closes June 15, 2004 at 11:59 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time. (Remember if you do not vote or abstain on this
> > > ballot it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote). Buzz,
> please ensure
> > > this gets sent to the "802ALL" email list as well. WG
> chairs, if you
> > > haven't already done so, please invite your WG members to comment
> > > through you. Attached you will find a zip file containing:
> > > >         1) A P&P Revision cover letter
> > > >
> > >
> (802.0-Compliance_with_SA_Model_P&P-Balloted_P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf
> > > )
> > > >         2) Text for the P&P revision
> > > >                         (SA_Model_compliant_LMSC_P&P_040514.doc)
> > > >         3) A mapping of text from the "old" P&P to the "new" P&P
> > > >
> > > > (LMSC_P&P-March_2004_R0_reformat-map_040514.doc)
> > > > The scope of this P&P revision is to bring the LMSC P&P
> > > into "editorial" conformance with the SA Model Sponsor
> P&P. That is
> > > to match the format of the SA model Sponsor P&P, but not
> to add or
> > > deleted any "governance" content from the current LMSC
> P&P. (I use
> > > the term "Governance" here is sense analogous to the term
> > > "normative" in standardese.) This letter ballot was
> approved at the
> > > Friday, March 19, 2004 EC meeting. The rationale for the changes
> > > being balloted are as given in the attached cover letter.
> > > > The actual changes are given in the second document listed
> > > above.  The changes are made in Word track changes mode
> against the
> > > SA model Sponsor P&P
> > > (http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/sponsmod.rtf). Normally, I
> > > would provide a pdf of the changes rather than a word
> document, but
> > > I have placed embedded comments in the file, and don't
> know how to
> > > maintain them in pdf format.  While this is a set of "editorial
> > > changes" to bring our P&P into the same overall format as the SA
> > > model P&P, the changes are very extensive, and a number of issues
> > > for future P&P are noted.  Please review the changes closely.  I
> > > expect I will have additional recommendations for
> editorial changes
> > > prior to the close of this ballot.  Note that all
> embedded comments
> > > will be removed from the document once approved, prior to
> > > formal release.  The comments are there to highlight issues
> > > that have arisen during the reformatting process that will
> > > have to be addressed in a future ballot as I believe them
> to require
> > > > governance changes.
> > > > Note that a reformat map is provided in the third document
> > > listed above.  It is a heavily commented version of the
> current P&P
> > > that indicates where in the "New P&P" each section of
> text from the
> > > "old P&P" gets mapped.  It will help the reader to confirm that I
> > > have neither added nor deleted anything other than
> editorial content
> > > in reformatting the P&P.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Mat
> > > > PS - Note that because of corporate firewall issues, I have
> > > renamed the zip file extension to "renamed_zip".  Prior to
> > > attempting to open the zip file you should change the
> file extension
> > > back to "zip".  If anyone has problems opening the file please
> > > contact me and I will provide the contents in uncompressed form.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > >
> > > > Matthew Sherman, PhD
> > > > Senior Member Technical Staff
> > > > BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> > > > Office: +1 973.633.6344
> > > > email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> > > >
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