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Re: [802SEC] Updated text for 'WG Membership & Meeting' P&P Revision



Why don't we keep the slot.  I will generated updated versions of the
changes tonight, but I think Roger / others still have unresolved issues
on this change so I want to have one last shot at a face to face.

 

Mat

 

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
Senior Member Technical Staff 
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR 
Office: +1 973.633.6344 
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com 

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From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Updated text for 'WG Membership & Meeting' P&P
Revision

 

Mat -

I presume that you have now adopted my proposal, in which case, there is
no longer a need for the scheduled Thurs PM meeting?

Regards,
Tony

At 19:16 14/11/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. \(US SSA\) wrote:



If there are no objections by tomorrow evening, I will adopt Tony's
recommendations.
 
Regards,
 
Mat 
 

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
Senior Member Technical Staff 
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR 
Office: +1 973.633.6344 
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com 

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From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:03 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Updated text for 'WG Membership & Meeting' P&P
Revision
 
At 23:53 13/11/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:

Folks,

 

As requested, I've modified the existing 'WG Membership & Meeting'  P&P
Revision to be against the most recently approved P&P (which should be
posted shortly).  No substantive changes have been made.

 

Best Regards,

 

Mat


Mat - 

The wording I have a problem with is as follows:

"WG election procedures shall be defined within the WG P&P. Prior to
their establishment, election procedures must be reviewed and approved
by the EC before implementation."

The first sentence mandates the existence of a WG P&P document;
otherwise, the "shall" cannot be complied with.

Yes, at some point, the SA will sick some set of model WG P&P on us;
however, forcing all 802 WGs to establish P&P ahead of time, with the
likelihood that the SA actions will cause us to re-work them later on,
seems to be a gratuitous waste of all our time.

Also, I see absolutely no rational reason why we should have N
differently worded sets of election procedures for officer positions, so
I can see no reason why this issue shouldn't be resolved by adding WG
election procedures to the 802 P&P.

My proposal is, therefore:

1) That both sentences in the above quoted text is removed from the
existing P&P rules change; and

2) A separate rules change be initiated (which I am happy to do if you
wish) to add WG officer election procedures to the 802 P&P.

If either of those sentences stay in, I will vote against this change.


Regards,
Tony

Regards,
Tony


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