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Re: [802SEC] Opening Plenary Meeting Changes and New Member Introduction Meeting reminder



I agree with Mike.

Carl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Takefman (tak) [mailto:tak@CISCO.COM] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:15 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Opening Plenary Meeting Changes and New 
> Member Introduction Meeting reminder
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> Buzz is right that we should get people's opinions, but I'd 
> prefer to give it a go and make the change.
> Then ask if it was a bad idea, rather then try to get 
> agreement on how to change it (we never would).
> 
> No offense to any of my fellow chairs, but the information 
> that is normally given during the opening plenary is easily 
> digestable via slideware and doesn't require all of us (and 
> them) sitting through (approximately) the same speech 11 times.
> 
> If we:
> 
> 1) Announce to the 802 world that this is what is going to happen.
> 
> 2) Have the information on the website no later then Tuesday 
> Feb 28th. Abuse the chairs that don't meet the deadline of 
> getting information to Bob (by Monday Feb 27th noon or choose 
> a time) so he can get it onto the site by the 28th. Public 
> flogging at the opening plenary might be amusing for the 
> membership too!
> 
> 3) As part of the Q/A take a poll (show of hands) on who 
> likes the new system and who doesn't like it (I bet a whole 
> bunch of people don't even raise their hands to either). 
> 
> 4) Ask for comments on ways to improve
> the opening plenary as part of the Q/A
> 
> cheers, 
> 
> mike
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> Michael Takefman              tak@cisco.com
> Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
> Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
> 3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
> voice: 613-254-3399       cell:613-220-6991 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:55 PM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Opening Plenary Meeting Changes and 
> New Member 
> > Introduction Meeting reminder
> > 
> > Paul,  I can appreciate your intention to make our opening plenary 
> > more "meaningful."  But I am concerned that there will be a lot of 
> > folks who come to the opening expecting to hear what will happen in 
> > each Working Group (because we've always done it that way) 
> so they can 
> > decide where they want to spend their time that week.  I 
> also think we 
> > should not make this large a change without asking our attendees if 
> > this is an improvement that they want or not.  So I suggest 
> that you 
> > take 5 minutes to propose your plan to the full group, then let the 
> > WG's collect feedback on the notion, and the SEC can make a 
> decision 
> > on Friday for GO/NOGO on Plan B to be effective for our 
> July Session.  
> > I see no reason to rush into making such a big change 
> without at least 
> > first testing the sentiments of our attendees on the Plan.
> > 
> > We do have a tutorial slot open so you could even do this 
> exact agenda 
> > there for people to experience and then be able to decide for 
> > themselves, which is a better program for Opening Plenaries.
> > 
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing IT - SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA  98124-2207
> > (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > Cell: (425) 417-1022
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:12 AM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: [802SEC] Opening Plenary Meeting Changes and New Member 
> > Introduction Meeting reminder
> > 
> > 
> > Dear EC members,
> > 
> > I will organize and run the opening plenary meeting differently in 
> > March than we have had in the past.
> > 
> > I will not have each WG/TAG chair present their status 
> update slides. 
> > Rather, you must send them to me and Bob O'Hara 1 week prior to the 
> > opening plenary meeting (27 Feb), whereupon Bob will put your slide 
> > decks on the website for participants to review.
> > 
> > My goal is to make the opening plenary meeting more informative and 
> > interactive.  The meeting will be organized as follows:
> > - opening remarks (by me and EC members as appropriate) 15min,
> > - Q&A with entire EC 15min,
> > - presentation by someone from Staff or EC on a specific 
> topic (this 
> > time by Michael Lindsay) 15min,
> > - Q&A on the presentation 15min,
> > - closing remarks 1min.
> > 
> > I would like you to send me any major items you believe are deserve 
> > special mention during the opening remarks.
> > 
> > A more detailed draft agenda I have in my mind at the 
> moment follows.  
> > Suggestions on improvements are welcome.
> > 
> > 1) Opening Remarks: 15 minutes
> > The ususual boilerplate stuff--Financial Report, Patent Policy, 
> > Membership Policy, general announcements (election notice, 
> tutorials, 
> > new PARs, any major items EC members would like me to highlight,
> > etc.) (Nikolich, Sherman, Thaler, Rigsbee, Hawkins, O'Hara)
> > 
> > 2) Q&A with EC members (Nikolich moderates): 15 minutes
> > 
> > 3) presentation: 15 minutes
> > Michael Linday (SA attorney) The dos and don'ts of IEEE SA
> > 802 Standards Development
> > a)  imperative priniciples: due process, openeness, consensus, 
> > balance, right of appeal
> > b) code of ethics: safety, avoid conflict of interest, 
> honesty, reject 
> > bribery, technical focus by qualified experts, be open to 
> and provide 
> > honest criticism, fair treament for all, avoid injuring others 
> > reputations, assist colleagues in professional development
> > c) intellectual property: essential IP and LOA; copyright policy, 
> > trademark useage
> > d) idemnification policy
> > 
> > 4) Q&A based on presentation: 14 minutes (Nikolich 
> moderates) I will 
> > also announce the location/time for further discussion on 
> this topic 
> > if there is sufficient interest.  If we have an empty tutorial slot 
> > we'll put it there.
> > 
> > 5) Closing remarks, notices: 1 minute. (Nikolich)
> > 
> > Hopefully this will make for a much more valuable 
> utilization of the 
> > time we get to address the entire 802 assembly in one room.
> > 
> > Also, please remember that Pat Thaler is organizing a 'new member 
> > introduction' meeting to be held Monday morning--please let your 
> > groups know about this new feature.
> > Pat--please send a note to the EC reflector with the topics 
> you plan 
> > to have covered during this meeting.  Pat will have a Vice Chair 
> > present (David Law has volunteered this time) and it will 
> be good to 
> > have a representative from each WG/TAG present to help 
> field questions 
> > specific to that group--so please ask your group if a knowledgable 
> > member would be willing and available to participate in 
> this meeting.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --Paul
> > 
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