Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
Buzz,
The strawpoll at the joint opening plenary in Hawaii was overwhelming for
Rome. The strawpoll in .22 (and to my knowledge the other groups in Hawaii)
was overwhelming for Rome.
(There was full disclosure that non-NA meetings will cost more, so the polls
were not based on a lack of reasonable cost information by those polled.)
We (the EC) established a policy of "at least one non-NA plenary per year
(starting ASAP)". (2011 is NOT "ASAP") We also have an implied
encouragement for internationalization based on the policy goals of the
IEEE-SA, as decided by the BoG (of which I am only one member, but the
support for the policy in the BoG is, per my recollection, unanimous).
What's the hold-up? "The people have spoken" and they want Rome. I don't
believe that you are going to find any significant support for NOT doing
Rome, so why don't you give up what appears to be an effort on your part to
avoid Rome (in favor of Vancouver, I point out, not some other non-NA venue)
and just get it done for Rome?
With all respect,
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:53 AM
> To: wk3c@wk3c.com
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
>
>
> OK, thanx Carl. Can you send me an update when you get the numbers or
> at least give me your best estimate of the numbers (Y,N,A) and the
> number of attendees invited to vote ??? I'm trying to get enough data
> together to prove that our attendees really do want to do this even if
> it costs more.
>
>
> Thanx, Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing IT
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> Ph: (425) 373-8960 Fx: (425) 865-7960
> Cell: (425) 417-1022
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:07 PM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
>
> I don't have the exact numbers (don't have the minutes from
> my Secretary
> yet), but it was a significant majority for Rome.
>
> Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:28 PM
> > To: wk3c@wk3c.com
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
> >
> >
> > Carl, Did you get a tally for the poll in 802.22 ???
> >
> > Thanx, Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing IT
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > Ph: (425) 373-8960 Fx: (425) 865-7960
> > Cell: (425) 417-1022
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:51 PM
> > To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > My official response is ROME for March 2009. Waiting until 2011 is
> > simply
> > unacceptable.
> >
> > That is not just my personal view, but the overwhelming result of a
> > strawpoll in .22 at the Sept interim. (The poll in the
> joint opening
> > plenary of all of the wireless WGs except .16 was likewise
> > overwhelming
> > ...)
> >
> > Sorry, but the members also don't seem to want to give you
> > the easy way
> > out
> > (Vancouver) - it's pretty clear to me that they also believe that we
> > must
> > "walk the walk" on being international.
> >
> > I, for one, am disappointed that all of the intervening
> opportunities
> > have
> > apparently been foreclosed by contracting for NA rather than non-NA
> > venues.
> > It was my understanding that we set a policy somewhere around
> > a year ago
> > of
> > having at least one 802 plenary a year in a non-NA venue ... Which
> > doesn't
> > "jive" with there being no opportunities between March 2009
> and 2011.
> > (If I
> > recall correctly, at that time we were booked up until March
> > 2009. How
> > did
> > everything between March 2009 and 2011 get filled up
> without at least
> > one
> > non-NA venue in between?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of
> > > Rigsbee, Everett O
> > > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:45 PM
> > > To: stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > > Cc: 802info@IEEE.ORG; dawns@FACETOFACE-EVENTS.COM;
> > > darcel@FACETOFACE-EVENTS.COM
> > > Subject: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009
> > >
> > > Colleagues, Where there has been a good amount of
> discussion and
> > > comment on the venue proposals for March 2009 which were sent
> > > out, I had
> > > asked that we get an official response from each WG chair
> based on a
> > > poll at their interim session and an official indication of their
> > > preference from our other SEC members that are without WG
> > members. To
> > > date I have only one official response from Bob Heile for
> > 802.15. Can
> > > the rest of you please report back to me on your WG/personal
> > > preference
> > > ASAP so that we can zero in on our target for March 2009 and
> > > try and get
> > > a signed contract in place for us. Time is of the essence
> > > !!! :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx again for your help and support.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing IT
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > Ph: (425) 373-8960 Fx: (425) 865-7960
> > > Cell: (425) 417-1022
> > > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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