Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++Motion for electronic distribution of standards to 802+++closes 10 OCT 2007
I also agree with John & Carl. This is not progress, we are going
backwards. The CD's cost pennies per copy so the wastage concerns are
minimal. And I think there is significant value in being able to hand
each registrant his own personal library of IEEE-802 Standards when he
arrives at the meeting to pick-up his badge. Trying to do downloads and
burn CD's at meetings is totally non-productive and very risky
especially if we are doing nNA venues where access is likely to be more
restricted. The current program is not broken, so let's stop trying to
"Fix It", please. :-)
I vote disapprove.
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From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++Motion for electronic
distribution of standards to 802+++closes 10 OCT 2007
After seeing some of the arguments, both pro and con, I have concluded
I agree with John's 4 points below and vote disapprove.
The size of the 2007 802 Standards CD is about 417MB ... Multiply that
say 1500 attendees and you're talking about 625.5GB of extra transfers
our connection to the outside world (assuming the constraing that the
have to be served up from an IEEE server in Piscataway. I believe that
will cause serious bottlenecks, particularly considering that that load
unlikely to be distributed evenly in time.
This, plus the distraction factor are likely to negatively impact the
efficiency of our meetings.
I also appreciate the greater permanency of a pressed CD.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of J Lemon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:33 PM
> To: Paul Nikolich
> Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++Motion for
> electronic distribution of standards to 802+++closes 10 OCT 2007
> I vote disapprove.
> 1) A pressed CD provides a nice form of relative permanency. (Burning
> downloaded files onto a CD-R or CD+R does not provide
> anywhere near the same level of permanency as a pressed CD.)
> 2) It's much more convenient to be handed a CD than to download a CD's
> worth of data.
> 3) Having to spend time downloading the files creates a
> distraction and time sink that is most unwelcome during an already
> 4) Downloading such a large amount of data would be very disruptive to
> those using the internet access for other purposes.
> John Lemon
> On 9/25/2007 2:14 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> > Dear EC members,
> > Below is a motion from Bob O'Hara regarding distribution of material
> > previously on the 802 CD-ROM via electronic means. It is
> scheduled to
> > close 15 days from now, 10OCT2007. I delegate the conduct of this
> > ballot to Bob. Please cast your ballot via the EC reflector.
> > Regards,
> > --Paul Nikolich
> > "Moved: to authorize the expenditure of no more than $2,000.00 to
> > create, on IEEE servers, a secured web site that will allow
> > registered at an 802 plenary meeting to download the material
> > previously made available via an annual distribution of a
> CD-ROM. The
> > download facility will be available only during the weeks of an 802
> > plenary session, from 8am on Monday until 6pm on Friday."
> > Opens: 26 SEP 2007; Closes 10 OCT 2007
> > Mover: Bob O'Hara
> > Seconder: Stuart Kerry
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