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Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE 802 Inputs to ITU-R WP5A



Pat,

Happy to make the changes that indicate that it represents the views of 802.11, 802.15 and 802.18. So retaining the first sentence in "Source Information" is acceptable?

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pthaler@broadcom.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 16:50
To: MJLynch@mjlallc.com; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE 802 Inputs to ITU-R WP5A

I'm glad that I asked to see the cover letter - your draft is not acceptable.

IEEE 802 LMSC OM 9.2.1 .... All IEEE 802 LMSC communications to government bodies shall be issued by the IEEE 802 LMSC Chair as the view of IEEE 802 LMSC (stated in the first paragraph of the statement)....

Your cover letter introduction says that the documents are IEEE input:
" Attachment 1 contains IEEE's input on the Working document... while Attachment 2 provides IEEE's input for the Working document...." 

IEEE 802 can not speak for the whole of IEEE.  This document should be characterized as the input of IEEE 802 or of an IEEE 802 subgroup.

The next section of your cover letter more correctly characterizes the source of the opinion:

"This contribution was developed by IEEE Project 802(r), the Local and Metropolitan Area Network Standards Committee ("IEEE 802"), an international standards development committee organized under the IEEE and the IEEE Standards Association ("IEEE-SA").
The content herein was prepared by a group of technical experts in IEEE 802 and industry and was approved for submission by the IEEE 802.11(tm) Working Group on Wireless Local Area Networks, IEEE 802.15(tm) Working Group on Personal Area Networks, the IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group, and the IEEE 802 Executive Committee, in accordance with the IEEE 802 policies and procedures, and represents the view of IEEE 802."

If you wish to retain the statement that it represents the view of IEEE 802, then we will need an EC motion per 9.2.1. The other alternative is to present it as the view of a 802.18 or of several WGs (assuming that all approved it by the required 75%) as required by 9.2.2 of the 802 LMSC OM: "Sponsor subgroup communications shall be identified in the first paragraph as the view of only the Sponsor subgroup and shall be issued by the Sponsor subgroup(s) Chair(s) and shall include the Sponsor Chair in the distribution. Such statements shall not bear the IEEE, the IEEE-SA, or IEEE 802 LMSC logos."



-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of MJLynch@mjlallc.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:38 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE 802 Inputs to ITU-R WP5A

Roger,

While I have found in my email archives some proposals that differ from the format you have described. I have also found a number that simply seek EC review rather than a ballot. 

Based on the remaining time to the ITU-R deadline I am asking the EC's indulgence to propose changing this from an EC ballot to an EC review ending on 30th October.

Pat has asked that the cover letter be included. To accommodate that the responses, with the cover letter, have been uploaded to the RR-TAG Mentor web site as Doc. 18-10-0067.

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 13:55
To: MJLynch@mjlallc.com
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE 802 Inputs to ITU-R WP5A

Mike,

I didn't understand that there was a ballot underway.

Normally, a ballot begins with an announcement with a stated motion, a mover, and a seconder. And normally there is a statement that the ballot has been authorized by the LMSC Chair.

Roger



On 2010/10/25, at 11:25 AM, MJLynch@mjlallc.com wrote:

> Dear EC,
> 
> An update on the status of this ballot:
> 
> Vote categories:         APP    DIS    ABS    DNV
> --------------------------------------------------
> VC Pat Thaler                                             DNV
> VC Mat Sherman                                        DNV
> ES Jon Rosdahl                               ABS
> RS James Gilb                       	         DNV
> TR John Hawkins                                       DNV
> 01 Tony Jeffree                                          DNV
> 03 David Law                                              DNV
> 11 Bruce Kraemer                                      DNV
> 15 Bob Heile                                               DNV
> 16 Roger Marks                                          DNV
> 17 John Lemon                                           DNV
> 18 Mike Lynch            APP
> 19 Steve Shellhammer                               DNV
> 20 Mark Klerer                                            DNV
> 21 Subir Das                                               DNV
> 22 Apurva Mody                                         DNV
> 23 Geoff Thompson                                   DNV
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 17 TOTALS        result  01     00      01     15
> 
> Please vote. The ballot closes on 29th October. The documents need to be received by CoB, Geneva time, 1st November.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> +1.972.814.4901
> mike.lynchieee (Skype)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of MJLynch@mjlallc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:28
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE 802 Inputs to ITU-R WP5A
> 
> Dear EC,
> 
> At the Waikoloa interim meeting the RR-TAG received two documents that were jointly authored by 802.11 and 802.15. They provide a response to ITU-R WP5A on activities in 802.11 and 802.15 regarding wireless systems operating in frequency bands around 60 GHz. The original liaison from WP5A was received in June.
> 
> Document 18-10-0063 proposes changes to WP5A's "Working Document Towards a Preliminary Draft New Report ITU-R [LMS.MGWS2]". The report will provide the general aspects of Multiple Gigabit Wireless Systems (MGWS) in frequencies around 60 GHz.
> 
> Document 18-10-0064 proposes changes to WP5A's "Working Document Towards a Preliminary Draft New Recommendation ITU-R [LMS.MGWS1]". The recommendation will provide the general characteristics and radio requirement aspects of Multiple Gigabit Wireless Systems in frequencies around 60 GHz.
> 
> These documents were approved by a vote of 5/0/1. The RR-TAG chair was authorized to develop a cover letter for transmitting these document to WP5A, making edits as needed, and to submit them to the EC for approval.
> 
> I propose that the EC ballot period begin today (19th October) and close on 29th October.
> 
> Both documents are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/documents. The WP5A liaison is also available as 18-10-0037.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> +1.972.814.4901
> mike.lynchieee (Skype)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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