Re: [802SEC] IEEE-SA Policy and Procedures (P&P) Changes- January 2012 - Important - Please read

[Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>]

Tony-
Good point.
Having sat around board and board sub-committee actions in Piscataway 
for too many years, I believe it would proceed something like this:

  1. Some WG Chair on RevCom would propose to remove someone or some
     number of people for habitual non-response.
  2. There would be a painful extended discussion at RevCom on lack of
     crisp criteria for doing so.
  3. The discussion would extend to the fact that there is no procedure
     for removal, whether such removal would be immediate or whether
     there would be a personalized "warning" first and how long such a
     removal would last. That is, does removal disqualify someone from
     immediately re-applying to be a member of the balloting pool?
  4. There would be a motion to cast whomever out which would be a
     split decision but perhaps pass.
  5. There would be a unanimous motion to refer the issue to ProCom for
     more procedures.
  6. The motion in #4 would be removed from the consent agenda at the SASB
  7. The SASB would go into executive session because personalities are
     involved
  8. The SASB motion in executive session would go in the direction of
     no action for lack of precedent and procedural foundation.
  9. A ProCom ad-hoc would be set up and it would take a year (at
     least) for the issues in #3 to be resolved.
 10. Criteria and procedures would cut in with a new set of P&P a year
     or two after the first time someone actually tried to invoke the
     clause.

Happy New Year !!

Geoff

On 31//12 5:43 AM, Tony Jeffree wrote:
> Paul -
>
> I am pleased to see this addition in 5.4.1:
>
> "Balloting group members have an obligation to respond during the balloting
> period; failure to return a ballot may disqualify the balloter from
> participation in future balloting groups."
>
> This has been a long time coming; there have been many occasions when I
> would have found that rule useful in the past. However, as far as I can
> tell, this isn't backed up by any statement of how one would go about
> invoking the rule, which basically seems to render it a no-op. Do you have
> any information on what was intended here?
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 3 January 2012 13:09, Paul Nikolich<paul.nikolich@att.net>  wrote:
>
>    
> > Dear EC members,
> >
> > Attached below is a note from Dave Ringle of SA staff pointing to the most
> > recent revisions of the SA Bylaws, Operations Manual and changes for your
> > information.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: d.ringle@ieee.org
> > To: stds-board-comm@IEEE.ORG ; standards-staff@IEEE.ORG ;
> > std-liaison-reps@IEEE.ORG ; stds-wg-chairs@IEEE.ORG
> > Cc: sa-bog@IEEE.ORG
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:57 AM
> > Subject: IEEE-SA Policy and Procedures (P&P) Changes- January 2012 -
> > Important - Please read
> >
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws is available at:
> > http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/index.html (HTML
> > version)
> > http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf (PDF
> > version)
> >
> > The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual is
> > available at:
> > http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/index.html (HTML version)
> > http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sb_om.pdf (PDF version)
> >
> > The text of the changes made to these documents (approved by SASB/BOG in
> > 2011) can be found at:
> > http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/policy_rev.pdf
> >
> > Please read through these changes so that you are familiar with the
> > current P&P. [Note: Change 5 will be implemented on 1 March 2012.]
> >
> >
> > If you have any questions, please contact me. [Please do not reply to all
> > unless you want all to view your comments. Thank you.]
> >
> > Regards,
> > ******************************************************************
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