Re: [802SEC] +++10 Day EC Email Ballot+++ IEEE 802
I vote no.
I strongly agree with Roger's 3rd point.
The motion currently states that we "approve" the document, but that is
not what you are intending here. Instead, you should have a motion to
transmit or send the documents to a specific agency or group. Even if
we "approve" the document, you don't have authorization to submit it.
So, IMHO, this motion does not accomplish what you intend and so it
should be voted down and a new motion issued to approve this
contribution from IEEE 802 to ITU-R M.1801 according to "fill in P&P
On 08/08/2012 01:51 PM, Roger Marks wrote:
I have concerns with this:
(1) I disagree with the proposal to add the references to 802.11ad
(which is for the 60 GHz band), because this is out of scope of Rev.
M.1801. This can be seen directly from the title of M.1801, which
refers to systems "in the mobile service operating below 6 GHz." In
my view, the reference to 802.11ad should not be included in either
Annex 1 or in Table 7 (in Annex 8). Note that the key sentence of
M.1801 is that it "recommends… that the radio interface standards in
Annexes 1 to 7 should be used for BWA systems in the mobile service
operating below 6 GHz."
(2) Unapproved drafts should be identified as "P802…" rather than
(3) I'd prefer to see an explicit motion that states under which
procedure of the P&P the approval would be granted.
Given these concerns, my vote is Disapprove.
Roger B. Marks <email@example.com> Consensii LLC
<http://consensii.com> Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband
Wireless Access <http://WirelessMAN.org>
On 2012/08/08, at 01:27 PM, MJLynch@mjlallc.com wrote:
At the recent IEEE 802 EC closing plenary two IEEE 802.18
documents, both submitted to 802.18 by 802.11, failed to make it to
the agenda. Prior to the close of that meeting Paul granted me
permission to conduct a Ten Day EC Ballot for their approval. The
final vote in IEEE 802.18 on both documents on July 19th was 2/0/0.
I am including both documents in a single ballot since Doc.
18-12-0072.01 is simply the cover letter to transmit the changes
proposed by IEEE 802.11 to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801. When sent
to the ITU-R WP5A what is now Doc. 18-12-0063-04 will have been
embedded into the cover letter.
Recommendation ITU-R M.1801 deals with radio interface standards
for broadband wireless access systems, including mobile and nomadic
applications, operating in the mobile service. What IEEE 802.11 is
proposing is that Annex 1 and Table 7 of Annex 8 of Recommendation
ITU-R M.1801 be updated to include the approved amendments to the
IEEE 802.11 - 2012 Base Standard. As is the ITU-R norm the
necessary changes are shown in the “Track Changes” mode in Annex 1
and Table 7 of Annex 8 of the Recommendation.
Paul has authorized me to conduct a ten day EC mail ballot to
approve Documents 18-12-0063-04, titled "Draft Contribution to
M.1801 Recommendation" and 18-12-0072-01 titled “Draft Cover Letter
Motion of a 10 day ballot:
Start of ballot: 08 August
Close of ballot: 17 August
Moved: Michael Lynch
Second: Bruce Kraemer
As per the current P&P the ballot will close earlier if it becomes
apparent that the question has been determined.
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