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Re: [802SEC] 802.15 WG motions for 802 EC closing plenary now updated with 802.15 WG vote results



I can reach out to some of my automotive contacts (GM, Ford, Bosch, VW) if that would help.  In working on automotive ethernet, I have found their EM requirements quite challenging and specialized.  Having strong involvement, I believe, would be essential to forming up a project if it is to have an automotive component.

 

From: pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com <pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:34 AM
To: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802.15 WG motions for 802 EC closing plenary now updated with 802.15 WG vote results

 

Hi George;

 

Good points and question.  While I have some understanding of various EM environments, I would also like some automotive industry expertise in the group.  I will put this question to Prof Ryuji Kohno and request him to respond back in a timely fashion.

 

 

Sincerely,  Pat

Pat Kinney
Kinney Consulting LLC
IEEE 802.15 WG chair, IEEE 802.15 SCm chair, IEEE 802.15.12 chair
ISA100 co-chair, ISA100.20 chair
M: +1.847.997.3775
O: +1.847.960.3715
pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com

 

On 18, Mar2021, at 10:04, George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com> wrote:

 

Pat – thank you for the updates.  I had not realized that the Body Area Networks combined automotive bodies as well as human bodies (I had thought they were human body networks).  Having done a bit of work in automotive networking, I am somewhat familiar with the EM environment there, and it seems substantially different from what a human body would ordinarily deal with, including issues of compatibility, interference tolerance with high-levels of EM signals often due to interactions of the automotive body with EM fields.  I would have thought that these (automotive and human networks) are two different problems, requiring different environmental expertise.  Is the expertise present in the proposed SG from the automotive industry?

-george

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> On Behalf Of pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:04 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] 802.15 WG motions for 802 EC closing plenary now updated with 802.15 WG vote results

 

Dear EC members;

 

This is an update to the email I sent on Tuesday, 16 March showing the 6 motions I will present at the closing 802 EC meeting. The 6 motions to presented to the EC, (4 motions are for the formation of Study Groups as mentioned in the opening meeting, as well as two motions for unconditional approval to forward drafts to RevCom) have been updated with 802.15 WG voting results.  

 

Approve the formation of Study Groups

 

1) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.6a Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for IEEE Std 802.15.6 amendment: for enhanced dependability.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG Result:35/1/5]




2) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.4ab Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for IEEE Std 802.15.4 amendment: Enhanced Ultra Wide-Band (UWB) Physical Layers (PHYs) and Associated MAC Enhancements.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG Result:43/0/1]




3) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.14 Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for a new IEEE 802.15 standard focused only on Ultra-Wide-Band (UWB) devices.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG Result:41/2/2]




4) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.15 Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for a new IEEE 802.15 standard focused only on Narrow Band (NB) types of devices.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG Result:38/0/2]

 

Unconditional to RevCom motions: P802.15.4y, P802.15.9rev1

 

1) P802.15.4y to RevCom (Unconditional)

Approve sending P802.15.4y-D04 to RevCom.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG CSD Result:36/0/1]

[802.15 WG to RevCom Result: 36/0/1]

 

============================

 

2) P802.15.9rev1 to RevCom (Unconditional)

Approve sending P802.15.9rev1-D05 to RevCom.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: Holcomb

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG CSD Result: 36/0/2]

[802.15 WG to RevCom Result: 36/0/2]

 

 

 

Sincerely,  Pat

Pat Kinney
Kinney Consulting LLC
IEEE 802.15 WG chair, IEEE 802.15 SCm chair, IEEE 802.15.12 chair
ISA100 co-chair, ISA100.20 chair
M: +1.847.997.3775
O: +1.847.960.3715
pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com

 

 

 

Begin forwarded message:




Subject: WG15 motions for 802 closing plenary

Date: 16March, 2021 at 6:42:06 CDT

 

Dear EC members;

 

In addition to the approval of the new slate of officers for the 802.15 WG, I will have 6 motions to present to the EC, 4 motions are for Study Groups as mentioned in the opening meeting, as well as two motions for unconditional approval to forward drafts to RevCom.  The 802.15 WG will vote on the respective WG motions on Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at its closing plenary, I will input the votes at that time and resend this email.  The prepared EC motions are below.

 

Approve the formation of Study Groups

 

1) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.6a Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for IEEE Std 802.15.6 amendment: for enhanced dependability.




2) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.4ab Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for IEEE Std 802.15.4 amendment: Enhanced Ultra Wide-Band (UWB) Physical Layers (PHYs) and Associated MAC Enhancements.




3) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.14 Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for a new IEEE 802.15 standard focused only on Ultra-Wide-Band (UWB) devices.




4) Approve the formation of an 802.15 SG15.15 Study Group to consider development of a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) responses for a new IEEE 802.15 standard focused only on Narrow Band (NB) types of devices.

 

Unconditional to RevCom motions: P802.15.4y, P802.15.9rev1

 

1) P802.15.4y to RevCom (Unconditional)

Unconditionally approve sending P802.15.4y to RevCom.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: ?

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG CSD Result:TBD]

[802.15 WG to RevCom Result: TBD]

 

============================

 

2) P802.15.9rev1 to RevCom (Unconditional)

Unconditionally approve sending P802.15.9rev1 to RevCom.

Moved: Kinney

Seconded: ?

Result: Yes: x, No: x, Abstain: x

[802.15 WG CSD Result: TBD]

[802.15 WG to RevCom Result: TBD]

 

 

 

Sincerely,  Pat

Pat Kinney
Kinney Consulting LLC
IEEE 802.15 WG chair, IEEE 802.15 SCm chair, IEEE 802.15.12 chair
ISA100 co-chair, ISA100.20 chair
M: +1.847.997.3775
O: +1.847.960.3715
pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com


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