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RE: UPAMD updated goals



Good comments. I’ll be in tonight’s meeting, but late … my inputs to the edited goals (late: just back from vacation)

 

o    Life expectancy of 10 years, hopefully more Clarify this … I read it as a standard that is expected to be in force 10 years until something better comes along. Comments suggest it refers to how long a power/charge device will work before it fails.  

o    Same connector for All device and adapter connections if detached cable  Nice idea, but small format devices won’t work with fat connectors handling 130W … disagree that this is a workable goal.

o    Power range >10W – 130W delivered power to device and is brand, model, and year agnostic     Agree, assuming this is forward-looking.

o    First adapter must work with last device and last adapter with first device. Standard Compatibility. Disagree. Allow for upgrades to standard. Adapter tips could cover turning the UPAMD to a “dumb-ish” 19V adapter for legacy notebooks. There may be an analogy with Windows “safe mode” where a new device operates with an old adapter, but has to forgo certain features. Up for debate.

§  Adapter<->Mobile Device communications required for higher power safety >0.7W (down from 7W ie 12-14v@50ma)  Seems redundant; need communications, period.  

§  Standard designed to support Certification testing of adapter and device (and cable)  Agree. We’ll need to tackle the fact that IEEE/UL 60950-1 draws a line at 20V on “limited power supplies”.

o    Continuous communications growth to support growth of UPAMD capability. Agree

o    Basic power delivery mechanism

§  Must support regular non-battery and battery powered devices  Agreed. Needs careful consideration of variability of power from “alternative” sources.

o    Device may be capable of being a source as well as a sink of power   “May be capable” … well OK, but optional parts of standards don’t get much use in my limited experience, especially if they add cost. Need to understand if there are really devices willing to give up substantial amounts of their charge. Buddy-charging of notebooks??? Rarely of value? Maybe for kick starting a fuel cell??

§  To supply power other devices beyond the USB 10W power range 

§  Able to share power for mission critical or business critical applications if willing

o    Make independent of rapidly changing technology   Agree

§  Multiple battery technologies currently used – no common adapter or battery voltage

§  Consider isolation to meet medical power needs

o    Consider future mobile device design options This I assume is related to connectors. Manufacturers should be able to compete on Adapter form factors.

§  Smaller profiles, headed for 10mm to 5mm? Different shape devices, non-edge usage

o    Connector must not mate with any current designs – product Safety issue – no confusion  Agree … use dongles to power older designs.

o    Apply KISS principle – Keep It Simple Stupid  within the other goals. KIVSS   V= Very

o   Dynamic communications (power hub may have to reduce power to device A if device B is later plugged into the same power hub; cloud passes over solar cell … )

o   Cost-sensitive ; low-end notebooks, for example, won’t want to carry the cost overhead of a medical-grade charger.

 

Andy