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RE: Needed input into Power Subgroup Voltage Options



Hello Bob:

 

Unlike what was suggested, I believe the IEEE should make a ruling on what we are attempting here, not the individual members.

 

It was my understanding that the charter of the group is to develop a standard power interface with lowest practical cost.  From my interpretation of what we are doing, this is about as far from price-fixing as Mother Theresa is to corruption.  Here’s my recommendation:

 

·       Validate whether or not I have accurately characterized the charter of the UPAMD with respect to its cost goals.  The basis of this goal, I understood, was to ensure that whatever standard was developed would NOT have a negative financial impact on any potential adopter.  Just review the email reflector and you will see cost has ALWAYS been a factor in the discussions.

 

·       Have the IEEE attorneys review whether or not what is being suggested is against the anti-trust laws and render an opinion and provide guidance.  Guidance should come from the IEEE, not a member.

 

Gary – thank you for bringing up this potential conflict.  I emphasize potential, because it is not yet clear to me what the rules indicate in this situation.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Panepinto

UPAMD Power Subgroup Chair

(970) 461-3077

 

From: Gary_Verdun@xxxxxxxx [mailto:Gary_Verdun@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:20 PM
To: paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx; upamd@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Needed input into Power Subgroup Voltage Options

 

Paul,

 

I believe filling in the voltage options request you sent out would be in violation of antitrust guidelines. I would recommend that no one on this committee complete the requested form without reviewing the antitrust guidelines.

 

According to the guideline we can discuss relative cost differential of certain options and even then we need to be very careful.

 

 I have attached the IEEE antitrust guidelines and suggest everyone in your sub team look it over very carefully before having any discussion about cost.

 

If any cost or price information exchanges hands that does not meet these guidelines Dell will immediately withdraw participation from the committee.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Gary Verdun

Technology Strategist

Dell | Office of the CTO

office + 1 512 723 6251, fax + 1 512 723 9929

CTO Office on One Dell Way

 

From: upamd@xxxxxxxx [mailto:upamd@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Panepinto
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:12 AM
To: 'upamd@xxxxxxxx'
Subject: Needed input into Power Subgroup Voltage Options

 

Hello:

 

Per the UPAMD general group meeting today, I am sending this request for your input into an important criteria for the Power Subgroup.

 

Attached, please see the 10/7/2010 meeting notes and the agenda for the 10/21/2010 meeting.  We need more participation as we decide the requirements for valid voltage(s).  We’ve looked at 5 options described in the attached file.  Please add your analysis of how each option impacts cost, size, efficiency, etc. before the 10/21 meeting.

 

So far, the group prefers a single voltage with a broad tolerance, i.e. 21V +/- 3V.  This broad range accounts for voltage changes with different cable lengths, pin sizes, current drawn, etc.  But can a single voltage be efficiently used by products as different as cordless phones, digital picture frames, laptops, printers and external storage devices?  Would it be more cost effective to require sinks to regulate input voltages that may vary between 18V and 24V or to put the burden of voltage regulation on the power adapter such that the voltage at the sink is always 21V?  Creating a power adapter that can change its output voltage adds complexity, but may offer energy savings.  These are the issues we would like you to address in your analyses in the attached template.

 

Your participation is important.  At the next Power Subgroup meeting, we will review your analyses and work towards a conclusion of the ideal voltage requirements for this spec.  From there, we will draft voltage and power criteria to be voted upon.  Then, we will look at issues surrounding the remaining goals including power for communications, ability to be both a sink and a source, power for both battery and non-battery devices, operation with unstable sources of power,

 

Next Power Subgroup Meeting:

7am Pacific, Thursday, October 21st

10am Eastern, Thursday, October 21st

3pm London, October 21st

10pm Taiwan, October 21st

11pm Japan, October 21st

 

See you on the October 21st meeting.  And, thanks for your input.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Panepinto

UPAMD Power Subgroup Chair

(970) 461-3077