Re: [PP-DIALOG] Question for Clarification

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Jim, et al:

I am expecting two response, one by 17 June and one by 20 June.Â The first covering the topics of my email of 20 May.Â The second covering the topics of my email of 1 June except subtopic iv, â??How are LOAs for an amendment versus a standard interpreted?â?? because that needs to be covered in responses due 17 June.

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Â	Don Wright, President Standards Strategies, LLC 10420 Vista Hills Blvd Louisville, KYÂ 40291 don@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +1 859-396-7812

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From: Harlan, James I [mailto:Jim.Harlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 6:45 PM
To: PP-DIALOG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PP-DIALOG] Question for Clarification

Hi Don,

While preparing remarks to your 2 PP-DIALOG posts, a couple of questions aroseâ?¦

(1)Â Â Â You sent an email on 20 May 2016 seeking a response by 17 June 2016 that had an attachment titled, â??Questions and Proposed Answers Regarding LOAs and Amendments v3.docxâ??,

a.Â Â Â Â Â Â where the email had the following information:

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â i.Â Â Â Â Â PatCom has been discussing four (4) questions asked by an IEEE WG Chair regarding how LOAs apply to amendments;

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ii.Â Â Â Â Â PatCom has discussed several proposed responses that was in the attachment; and

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iii.Â Â Â Â Â Belief that no edits to FAQs 14 & 17 were necessary.

b.Â Â Â Â Â where the attachment had the following four questions, with proposed responses:

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â i.Â Â Â Â Â Does a blanket LoA citing a standard provide assurance for subsequent amendments or revisions of the standard?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ii.Â Â Â Â Â Does a Letter of Assurance citing specific patents that cites a standard provide an assurance for subsequent amendments or revisions of the standard?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iii.Â Â Â Â Â Does a blanket LoA that cites a specific amendment to a standard continue to apply once the amendment has been rolled into the standard (i.e. in a subsequent revision or edition), and the cited amendment becomes obsolete. If so, is it still a â??blanketâ?? LoA that covers the entire subsequent revision?â??

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iv.Â Â Â Â Â Does a Letter of Assurance that cites specific patents and cites a specific amendment to a standard continue to apply once the amendment has been rolled into the standard (i.e. in a subsequent revision or edition), and the cited amendment becomes obsolete?

(2)Â Â Â And then you sent an email on 1 June 2016 seeking a response by 20 June 2016 that had no attachment, where the email had the following information:

a.Â Â Â Â Â Â There have been a number of discussions among IEEE participants concerning the applicability of LOAs, focusing on at least the following four Topics:

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â i.Â Â Â Â Â How should LOAs (blankets and others) be understood in situations involving changes in ownership, control, etc. especially considering updates to the Patent Policy text?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ii.Â Â Â Â Â Which form of LOA is required for PARs (projects) that were already in existence when the Patent Policy text was updated on 15 March 2015?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iii.Â Â Â Â Â Which form of LOA is required for PARs (projects) that were started on or after 15 March 2015?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iv.Â Â Â Â Â How are LOAs for an amendment versus a standard interpreted?

b.Â Â Â Â Â To which you mention:

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â i.Â Â Â Â Â PatCom has been discussing Topic 1 but has no guidance;

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ii.Â Â Â Â Â Regarding Topics 2 & 3, PatCom noted FAQs #84 & #85 describe the effective date; and

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â iii.Â Â Â Â Â Topic 4 was addressed in a separate email on 20 May 2016.

That being said, are you expecting two separate responses to these emails, one due 17 June and the other due 20 June, where the former addresses (1) and the latter addresses (2)?

OR, because of (2)b.iii was addressed at (1), is it fair to assume that (1) now has a different due date so that everything is due 20 June?

Thanks,

Jim Harlan â?¢ Director, Standards & Competition Policy â?¢ InterDigital, Inc.

515 C St NE, Washington, DC 20002 â?¢ T: +1 202-349-1713 â?¢ Jim.Harlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx