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“2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA Guido Hiertz proposed adding an agenda item to discuss status re the September 2020 DOJ
Business Review Letter to IEEE. His motion failed after not being seconded.
In response, Chair Law made the following statement: ….” Sincerely, Dina
From: Gil Ohana (gilohana) <00000b67ee67ba19-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I agree with Don that a motion that failed to attract a second is not a failed motion, it’s a motion that was never made. To Scott’s point, if we go ahead and include a reference to Guido’s non-seconded motion, we would also need to include
the full text that David Law read in response. Best regards, Gil From: Gilfillan, Scott L <scott.l.gilfillan@xxxxxxxxx>
I don’t have a position either way, but as an academic exercise, does it matter that the motion, even if it had been seconded, would have been mooted by the BOG statement that PatCom Chair Law was – prior to the meeting - directed to read? From: Jim Harlan <Jim.Harlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I’m sorry Don, but I respectfully disagree under Robert’s Rules of Order, (link,
http://www.rulesonline.com/rror-10.htm#60) 60. The Minutes. The record of the proceedings of a deliberative assembly is usually called the Minutes, or the Record, or the Journal. The essentials of the record are as follows: … (f) all the main motions
(except such as were withdrawn) and points of order and appeals, whether sustained or lost, and all other motions that were not lost or withdrawn; A motion made but not seconded is a failed motion that should be minuted. It is not a lost or withdrawn motion. Thus, I believe the minutes should be amended to read: “2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA Guido Hiertz proposed adding an agenda item to discuss status re the September 2020 DOJ Business Review Letter to IEEE. His motion failed after not being seconded.
In response, Chair Law made the following statement: ….” Or something to that effect. Jim Harlan • Senior Director, Standards & Competition Policy • InterDigital, Inc. 515 C St NE, Washington, DC 20002 • T: +1 202-349-1713 •
Jim.Harlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Don Wright <don@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
A motion made but not seconded is not consider by the body and is treated as if it was never made. Therefore, it is not recorded in the minutes. ----- Don Wright, President Standards Strategies, LLC 10420 Vista Hills Blvd Louisville, Ky 40291 +1 859-396-7812 VP, IEEE SA Products and Services Innovation Past President, IEEE Standards Association. Member, IEEE SA BoG. Member, IEEE SA CAG. Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors Member, IEEE Governance Committee Past Member, IEEE Board of Directors Past Chair, IEEE SA Standards Board Past Chair, INCITS Executive Board
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