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Re: modal intervals



On 12 Nov 2008 at 10:16, Arnold Neumaier wrote:

> Svetoslav Markov wrote
> [in ''Edge case conversions, exceptions to IEEE FPA'']:
> 
>  > standardization of proper interval arithmetic would be
>  > equivalent to standardization of nonnegative reals.
> 
> In contrast to the reals, which form a field,
> the same is not the case for Kaucher intervals.
> For example, the distributive law fails.
> Kaucher intervals form a complicated algebraic structure,
> not really simpler than that for ordinary intervals.
> 
> Thus your analogy completion of R^+ to R vs. completion of
> intervals to Kaucher intervals is poor.
> 

Not so poor, as I meant completion with respect to addition. I do not 
say that Kaucher structure is simple. However, I would not claim that
a field is a simple structure as well, and that all laws in a field are nice. 
For instance, why in a field  the product of two negative numbers is positive?
I doubt that there is someone who likes this law.  There is
no distributive law in Kaucher arithmetic, but there is a quasidistributive
one, which is not bad at all.

> 
>  > I believe that a standard for Kaucher interval arithmetic will be simpler
>  > than one for proper intervals, as there will be no need to check
>  > whether an interval (as input data or computational result) is
>  > proper or not.
> 
> Input is a tiny part of interval computations, and output will
> be automatically proper if the input is.

how   is this  translated in the situation with reals?
No algebraic problems like  a+ x =b shall be allowed?

Svetoslav

> 
> However, computations are more complex, since in most operations
> one needs to check whether an interval is proper or not.
> 
> Thus whether or not to include modal intervals or Kaucher arithmetic
> will depend on whether the extra compexity is compensated by
> sufficiently increased practical usefulness.
> 
> 
> Arnold Neumaier