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Arnold, On carefully re-reading your post, I see you said "I'd like to ask for clarification how/whether the existence of these patents should affect the standardization procedure." That is different from "affect whether we obtain a standard" or "affect cost of implementation of the standard." I CAN answer the precise question you ask, with "No." That is, my belief is that we should proceeding without worrying about Sun's patents. That's a job for someone else. If Sun has an interest it feels is being countered by the standardization decisions being made by P-1788, it can direct its representative on P-1788 to represent Sun accordingly. We should act according to our goals, but I suggest we should occasionally search our own souls to focus precisely on what our own goals are (especially if we are in academia and not constrained by commercial interests). Baker R. Baker Kearfott wrote:
Arnold, I don't know the answer to that. Baker Arnold Neumaier wrote:Ralph Baker Kearfott wrote:And I'd like to relay my own opinion that I posted to the reliable_computing list. It follows, but first, I'd like to say that IEEE guidelines (in the call for patents, which is shortly due to be sent out this month) states roughly that working groups should not speculate on the validity or strength of patents in their discussions.I'd like to ask for clarification how/whether the existence of thesepatents should affect the standardization procedure, in which way the (non)existence and/or contents of Letters of Assurance influences theprocedures at the various stages, and whether the Letters of Assuranceare open to list members or to the public (e.g. the Reliable Computing mailing list).This has nothing to do with speculations on the validity or strengthof patents, and should therefore be within the boundaries of permitted discussion.Arnold Neumaier
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