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Re: motion 15



> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:02:40 +0200
> From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=FCrgen_Wolff_von_Gudenberg?=
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> To: stds-1788 <stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
>  Dan Zuras Intervals <intervals08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>  Nate Hayes <nh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: motion 15
> 
> P1788
> shortly before the end of the discussion period
> I rebounce my concern about motion 15:
> 
> > In my opinion Nate shows in his position paper that a properly
> > defined tetrits value suffices to carry a decoration value (or
> > property) through a computation. Inother words the "sticky"
> > propagation of information is feasible.
> > Hence motion 15 is obsolete !
> > -- or am I missing the point?
> > Juergen
> 
> Dan what are your plans with the motion ?
> I think we shall first vote on tetrits vs octagits.
> Nate, can you prepare such motion ?
> 
> regards
> Juergen
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	My plans?

	Well, to the extent that these things are under my
	meager control, I would like to proceed with motion
	15 as it is written.

	You see, as Nate suspected, I do not share your
	opinion that it is obsolete.  It is the end result
	of a long discussion most of which you have seen on
	this notes reflector.

	As for tetrits versus octits, that came from one of
	the later comments by Baker who pointed out that,
	while a 4-state form such as suggested by both Nate
	& I (in somewhat different ways) was possible, the
	separating out of the sticky bit was simpler from a
	conceptual standpoint.  As I looked into it, I found
	that it also had merit for eliminating interlocks in
	hardware implementations in deep pipes.

	So I think it still has merit.  IMHO, of course.

	Let's see how the vote goes before we consider another
	way.  I'd like to know how the others feel about it.
	Wouldn't you?  If it goes down perhaps we should
	consider Nate's approach next.

	But let's let the chips fall where they may.

	That is my plan, anyway.  Gang aft agley :-)


				Dan