Re: P1788: PLEASE VOTE
P-1788, George:
I plan to withhold my vote on these two motions
for the following reasons:
1. I am at present still acting as chair. Following
Roberts' rules (or an adaptation of them to email
conduct of business) I would vote only if it
were to break a tie.
2. In addition to Motion 13 and Motion 20,
there are two other motions or prospective motions
associated with comparison operators: Motion 21
(13 comparisons closely tied to the standard
ordering of the real numbers), and a proposal
Arnold has been discussing privately with me
and Dominique Lohez. (I may extend discussion on
Motion 21, once Arnold's motion is made public,
so voting on both of these motions will be simultaneous.)
3. I can see advantages and disadvantages of each
of the four proposals, and I truly haven't made up
my mind. (Help me by voting.)
If more than one of these four eventual motions succeeds,
we may have a problem of interpreting the intent, since
the separate motions advocate inconsistent sets of
comparisons to a certain extent (although,
would we then be saying that we want ALL of the comparisons
in EACH motion?). Where inconsistencies occur, I'll assume
that the motion passed latest (if not simultaneous) supersedes
the earlier motion.
Best regards,
Baker
P.S. Arnold (and George) are right that if there are
more "yes" votes than "no" votes but still no quorum,
it is advantageous for an opponent
of the motion to withhold a "no" vote. However,
I don't think, in retrospect, that such behavior
is fatal to our effort, since the issue will
eventually reappear within the wording of the
standard, and people either vote or are removed
from the roster at that time. Furthermore, it
is unclear how to change the voting rules in a
way that would both mitigate this incentive to not
participate and also be generally acceptable.
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Subject: P1788: PLEASE VOTE
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:32:51 +0000
From: Corliss, George <george.corliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Corliss, George <george.corliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
According to my records, you are a registered voter in P1788, and you have not yet voted on either Motion 13.04 Comparison Relations or on Motion 20.01 Comparing Comparisons.
Voting on Motion M0013.04 Comparison Relations (Kulisch/Pryce) ends on TOMORROW, October 8.
Current count: Yes: 25; No: 2; Required for quorum: 37
Voting on Motion M0020.01 Comparing Comparisons (Lohez/Kreinovich) ends on TOMORROW, October 8.
Current count: Yes: 13; No: 12; Required for quorum: 37
As Voting Tabulator, I urge you to PLEASE VOTE. To vote, send a message to stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
However, I feel honor-bound to point out that Arnold has pointed out that if you oppose a motion, it is a better strategy to not vote than to vote no. If you choose such strategic non-voting, I urge you to share your reasons.
I consider October 8 to end when October 8 disappears beneath the International Date Line, so I count votes waiting for me when I get up on Saturday morning.
Dr. George F. Corliss
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Marquette University
P.O. Box 1881
1515 W. Wisconsin Ave
Milwaukee WI 53201-1881 USA
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