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Re: A suggestion regarding status change Re: Motion P1788/0023.01:NoMidRad -- VOTING PERIOD BEGINS

Dear colleagues

as Arnold is not able to withdraw the motion,
and as it seems difficult to vote on this motion
in its current wording, because of too much
ambiguity, I do think  we need to re-initiate the
motion and discussion.
Thus I declare that Motion 0023.01 is withdrawn.


I will formally ask for a motion corresponding to
Arnold's revised text and solicit a mover and a
seconder. I plan to do so after the vote on Motion 19
ends.
This should only cause a (bit more than) three week
delay.

In the mean time, everyone, please continue voting
on Motion 19.

Kind regards
	Nathalie

PS: I send this message again, as my first attempts did not
completely succeed to reach all of us.

On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Dan Zuras Intervals wrote:


Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:06:35 +0200
From: Arnold Neumaier <Arnold.Neumaier@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "R. Baker Kearfott" <rbk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: Nate Hayes <nh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, owner-stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , 
stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: A suggestion regarding status change Re: Motion P1788/0023.01:NoMidRad -- VOTING PERIOD BEGINS 

R. Baker Kearfott wrote:


I suggest the following:

1. Arnold Neumaier (through Dan Zuras) formally withdraws Motion 23.


I did not move the motion, hence cannot withdraw it.

Starting from the Vienna proposal and including the present case,
functioning as an advisor but non-member, I only propose formulations
of content and rationales.
It is up to the regular members of P1788 to do with these formulations 
what they find appropriate,


Arnold Neumaier


	Many have complained about how slow things are going
	in this group.  While it is going faster than you think,
	that perception is caused by delaying the hard decisions.

	This question is a hard one that is at the root of much
	of the arguments in this group.

		The standard shall not support a midrad interval
		format or nonstandard intervals, beyond providing
		conversion support, approximately to the extent
		specified in the Vienna Proposal.

	It is a stark choice but one that is better made sooner
	than later.  I don't know what the correct answer is but
	you (collectively) do.  And I know it is better to lay
	your cards on the table now than to raise the stakes
	until many of you are hurt by the result.

	Now is the time to choose.

	I ask that you think long & hard about it & vote.

	I know that all of you have an opinion about this so I
	doubt not making a quorum will be a problem this time. :-)

	This is your first hard choice.

	Make it.


				Dan


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