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Re: Siegfried's recent paper, and other matters



Nate,

Writing an appendix to the standard seems to me too early: In order to
vote for an appendix, we certainly need to see how it will be
integrated within the standard, which is too early since the standard
is not yet completely settled. This is the reason why we vote on
motions instead, which are independent and self-contained and will be
used to guide writing the standard.

I therefore recommend instead writing a motion, detailing definitions
related to Kaucher intervals and their related operations proposed be
included in this appendix. This will help focussing on the content
instead of the form...

I think furthermore several issues should be addressed before any
detailed appendix or implementation is discussed. For example:

1- Will the operations over Kaucher interval be restricted to bounded
Kaucher intervals?
2- What correspondance will be provided between the classical empty
set and Kaucher intervals?
3- How to compute operation with Kaucher interval that are not
included in the domain definition of the functions?
4- How to compute reverse operation on Kaucher intervals?

Regards,

Alexandre

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Nate Hayes <nh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It seems to me a more scientific approach would be to vote on a document
> like the one described below, as well as its accompanying C++ reference
> implementation. Otherwise IMHO its a bit of a pig-in-the-poke.
> Nate
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pryce" <j.d.pryce@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Alexandre Goldsztejn" <alexandre.goldsztejn@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "stds-1788" <stds-1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Siegfried's recent paper, and other matters
>
>
>
>> Alexandre
>>
>> This seems a good idea to me. Will you propose this motion? I was only
>> expressing my personal opinion in my points 1 to 4.
>>
>> John Pryce
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 06:11, Alexandre Goldsztejn wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Ok. I will write the text for this appendix. Svetoslav has agreed to
>>>> help.
>>>> If anyone else wishes to contribute, please contact one of us offline.
>>>>
>>>> I will also make a commitment to providing a C++ modal interval
>>>> reference
>>>> implementation to accompany the appendix.
>>>
>>>
>>> Before Nate and others spend so much time writing these documents and
>>> implementations, shouldn't someone propose a motion to include Kaucher
>>> intervals in an appendix of the standard?
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't agree with points 3 (the standard should be as
>>> much as possible compatible with Kaucher intervals) and 4 (an appendix
>>> of the standard should be included in the standard) of John about
>>> Kaucher intervals, a motion could be the opportunity to discuss them.
>>
>>
>



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